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        07-26-2011, 10:48 PM
      #11
    Banned
    If I could mold a horse with my own hands, to be my dream horse. It would be YOUR'S with a thicker neck.

    I think she is going to be an amazing jumper and show horse. So beautiful.
         
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        07-26-2011, 11:48 PM
      #12
    Foal
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    Originally Posted by ponyjocky    
    if I could mold a horse with my own hands, to be my dream horse. It would be YOUR'S with a thicker neck.

    I think she is going to be an amazing jumper and show horse. So beautiful.
    Oh wow! Thank you so much! I absolutely love her to bits Its nice to know I'm not the only one who thinks she is beautiful....
         
        07-26-2011, 11:54 PM
      #13
    Foal
    Ok, so I took some more photos today - if I can get my stupid phone to hurry up and email them to my computer, I'll post them!

    So in regards to her hocks being a little straight - can this be counter-acted by good angles/lengths in her hip/hind quarters? When she walks she always over tracks by at least 15cms, so it seems that her hind leg movement is not that affected?

    Edited to add some photos - sorry for the shadows, its really hard to get decent photos in winter - the angle of the sun is all wrong! Also I tried to get her to stand up square, but as soon as I'd step back to take the photo she would move!

    Oh, and I have one more photo of her front legs to come - its somewhere in cyber space at the moment... :-D
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        07-27-2011, 12:07 AM
      #14
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    Here is the last photo...
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        07-27-2011, 01:51 AM
      #15
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    Anyone else willing to critique?
         
        07-27-2011, 03:29 AM
      #16
    Green Broke
    All the angles in the hindquarter must be taken into account, so a good hip will take up some of the slack. You may find that her hocks become arthritic when she is older so some management may be necessary. I have a friend who uses natural remedies to manage her horses' arthritis - I could find out what they are for you if you like.
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        07-27-2011, 08:00 AM
      #17
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    I am mostly in agreement with blue-eyed pony.

    She does appear to have good feet and good pastern angles. Good clean front legs, good width of chest. I do not think the angle of her hock is problematic, I think it's the straight stifles that are the culprit. Otherwise the angles in her hind end are adequate. What this translates to in practical terms is a horse you'll have to take care to keep fit, as otherwise she'll be prone to locking or slipping stifles.

    Her shoulder is okay, not ideal - combined with the almost equal lengths of forearm and cannon, I would not expect her to show safe, but not spectacular form over fences.

    Anything over training level dressage is going to be a challenge for her; she just isn't built to go round.

    I was willing to cut her some slack on the herring gutted, assuming she was racing fit, but in your later photos when she has let down and put some weight on, it is still apparrent. For the vast majority of horses, it's not a critical flaw. For race horses and upper level event horses, it's a concern. If you're eventing her at the lower levels and condition her properly, it shouldn't be a problem.

    If you like her and she's willing and eager to please, she could be successful at eventing or jumpers up to a certain level, say 3'6"ish.

    Her confo flaws worry me more from a long term soundness perspective than an ability perspective - she's probably athletic enough to do anything you want her to do within reason.
         
        07-27-2011, 08:54 AM
      #18
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    I agree with the conformation critiques. The haunch is a bit weak. The straightness may impact the fluidity of the overall movement.

    The "herring" gut simply means she is very narrow through the waist. It could be an indication of limited lung reserve (small lung capacity).

    The issues listed by the previous posters could have some effect on her ability to compete at the higher levels.......BUT.....

    I have seen many horses with poorer conformation than hers compete at the very highest levels in eventing. I remember the "horse of the year" one year who had a butt neck, a club foot and post hind legs so straight that he almost looked deformed, if you looked closely. Yet, he consistently won at advanced.

    It is as much a matter of the horse's heart than anything else. A horse with a strong heart and desire to please can overcome many obstacles. Would I openly seek a horse with that horse's conformation? No. However, if a horse like this found its way under my saddle and had the heart to go on...I would welcome it.
         
        07-27-2011, 09:00 AM
      #19
    Foal
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    Originally Posted by Allison Finch    
    I agree with the conformation critiques. The haunch is a bit weak. The straightness may impact the fluidity of the overall movement.

    The "herring" gut simply means she is very narrow through the waist. It could be an indication of limited lung reserve (small lung capacity).

    The issues listed by the previous posters could have some effect on her ability to compete at the higher levels.......BUT.....

    I have seen many horses with poorer conformation than hers compete at the very highest levels in eventing. I remember the "horse of the year" one year who had a butt neck, a club foot and post hind legs so straight that he almost looked deformed, if you looked closely. Yet, he consistently won at advanced.

    It is as much a matter of the horse's heart than anything else. A horse with a strong heart and desire to please can overcome many obstacles. Would I openly seek a horse with that horse's conformation? No. However, if a horse like this found its way under my saddle and had the heart to go on...I would welcome it.
    Thanks Allison - I was starting to regret posting this thread!

    At the end of the day I can handle her conformation faults. I'm not going to stop trying to achieve my dream of eventing her. Who knows where we could end up??

    If she shows no promise, talent or heart for eventing I will probably sell her on to a loving home

    And then I will take on board all that has been said here, and put that in place when it comes to buying my next OTTB.

    Thanks for all the critiques btw. Even if they do sting a little sometimes!
         
        07-27-2011, 09:06 AM
      #20
    Foal
    Sorry Maura - just saw your reply. Thanks for your wonderful critique as well

    On a side note - I'm glad you think she has gained some weight. I thought she had, and I txt some photos to a friend of mine, and said she didn't see it! I thought I must have been imagining it haha :P
         

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