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    10-04-2011, 03:48 PM
yearling confo critique

My friend just purchased this cute lil pony on Sunday. His name is Remington and he is a welsh/tb cross (3/4 welsh) is currently 13.1h and is a year and a half old. I know its young to do a conformation critique but if you could she is very curious to see what people think of him. She is hoping Remi will atleast get to 14.1h and have a very good jump for show jumping and eventing at atleast BN level. I personally think he will take after his breeding and make a great 2'6 hunter horse. Your thoughts on that as well would be nice :)

We were having a hard time getting him to stand still, so I hope these pictures are ok!

Heres Remi, he's a cutie!!!!!

A pic from the for sale ad
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    10-05-2011, 07:37 AM
Nice shoulder, bit downhill (usual for a baby) and a bit straight through the hock. Slopey pasterns, maybe a bit too much slope. Cute head, neck is ok (will bulk up as he gets older, or so we can hope). Nearside hind looks maybe a little clubby.

Hooves are maybe a tad bit small. Long cannons, might grow out of it. Straight back, not much wither, will be hard to saddle fit when he is old enough for riding.

I'm picking faults here more than I'm picking things I like about him because IMO it's important to know the faults, especially if you're hoping to jump/event a horse. There is a fair bit I do like about this pony!
    10-05-2011, 08:03 AM
Green Broke
As much as people say that horses 'even up' when they are butt high when they are young.. I think 'not so much.' I expect he will be a bit down hill and muttony withered as an adult.

His back is a bit long and his coupling looks like it will develop a bit rough. His hind leg is posty (over striaght).

I like his front, shoulder and neck. He has powerful hind quarters. He has a nice open angle at the point of shoulder that should allow him to be a scopey little jumper. He has nice flat knees and decent bone. His head and neck are nice and he has a Thoroughbred's open throatlatch.

Lots to like about him. He will need lots of basics under saddle to help him learn how to collect and work off his hind quarters and develop his abdominal muscles before jumping (and he needs age since a horse's epiphysis do not close until age 4).
    10-05-2011, 09:42 PM
Theres is no possibility he will even be backed until after he turns 3. I don't get them under saddle until that age and I don't back them unless theyre built enough for it. If he isnt well wait until longer, all depends on him, but no worries no one will be on him for at least 2 years!
    10-07-2011, 06:03 AM
Elana I agree that they don't always even up, but they DO sometimes! My filly is nearly 10 months old now and this time last month she was 2 inches butt high. She is now level or maybe even uphill (haven't gotten around to measuring). They can and often do change a LOT. My girl is smack in the middle of the yearling uglies, and it's more than likely that this cute little roan is in that stage too.

FSHJumper, that's what I like to hear! I looked back at your OP and I don't actually think he will make 14.1 if he's only 13.1 at 18-ish months. I have a friend who has a highland pony filly that has grown maybe two inches from age 18 months to age 3 years. They are usually 90% of their height or taller by the time they are 12 months old. I'm hoping my girl will make 15 hands and to do that she has a lot of growing to do in the next couple of months, she is about 13.1 or 13.2 at the moment.

Although I can tell you I know a horse that has grown at least a hand and a half from age four to age five! Another friend's mum has a huge warmblood type gelding, he grew from 16.1 to at least 17.3 in the space of a year. HE IS HUGE.
    10-07-2011, 08:41 AM
Originally Posted by Elana    
As much as people say that horses 'even up' when they are butt high when they are young.. I think 'not so much.' I expect he will be a bit down hill and muttony withered as an adult.
Don't agree, sorry. Not that this applies to every breed, but I know a lot of young WB's that have got two very uphill built parents, and were incredibly downhill from between 3 months old up until almost 3 year olds. One didn't come right up in front until 5, and now he is beautifully uphill. My colt (now gelding) is almost an inch higher behind than in front as a yearling, though his sire is known for throwing brilliant front ends and his dam was one of the highest scoring hannoverian classified TB mares on the recent German studbook classification tour in Australia. I am certain that he will even up ;)

As for the pony, he is lovely! Conformation is not foot perfect, but as a good, solid all rounder he will be great. Backs a little long, shoulder's not brilliant etc but most do get pretty ugly as yearlings. I won't tell anyone how much I paid for mine at the moment when they see him (double figures ), he looks like some backyard mutt from out in the sticks, donkey x something that fell over the back fence!!!
It's hard to tell exactly what you're going to end up with from looking at a yearling. Your best bet is to look at that at 3 days, 3 months and then don't look at them again until they're 3 years when they START to look more like a real horse again!! Have a look at both sire and dam, and any progeny produced from either parent, to give you an idea of what he'll mature like.
    10-07-2011, 08:44 AM
^ agreed.

My filly looks awful at the moment, real awkward conformation, but I'm pretty sure she'll be spectacular when she's all grown up (she has real nice angles in her shoulder and rump, and when she MOVES it's like OMG). Won't be disappointed if she isn't, but I'm definitely preparing myself for something really special.
    10-07-2011, 10:07 AM
Green Broke
The OP's horse is of an age where 'evening up' is less likely (he is pressing 2, not just 1 off).

IF he evens up he will be awesome.
    10-07-2011, 05:44 PM
Heres photos of sire, and the only photos I can find of the dam, to see if that will possibly help you guys see if he will be a good candidate for show jumping and eventing by looking at the two of them. I don't know if it will help at all. The foal is his full brother, isnt he cute!
Sire is Falling Moon Merlin, out of Telynau Royal Anthem

Dam is welsh/TB out of champion hunters

    10-07-2011, 08:14 PM
Oops sorry, didn't read his age, just read the title and skimmed through a bit. Ok at pushing 2 evening up from being that downhill is less likely, though I would say he will still come up a fair bit.
Looking at his parents, neither of them are terribly uphill built horses. Both are fairly flat out of the wither and a little low in front. I'd say your friend's boy will end up being around even, maybe a tad downhill.
He won't be at an advantage as a sport horse if he is built downhill, however there is no reason for him not to do well in the lower levels of any discipline.
I think I've put this photo up a few times on the forum - but this is a QHxAppy mare that I was riding as a teenager. She had done nothing in her 10 years of life other than the odd trail ride, never cantered with a rider on board.
Photo is of my first ride on her

After 12 months, I competed her officially at the state dressage championships as a young rider and placed in both her prelim and novice tests.
It IS possible to get a very downhill horse to appear relatively even or even uphill with the right work :)

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