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post #1 of 8 Old 09-01-2013, 03:33 PM Thread Starter
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Zephyr the red head needs critiquing

Zephyr August 2013 - YouTube

Hereis a very short video of my friends horse that I helped her get years ago and it's been a long road to Rome.

We never thought he would be able to do what he can do today from him having such mental blocks, but over the years with trainer help and positive reinforcement he's come to where he is today!

This will be his first year doing bigger shows, getting more so out of his comfort zone.

I have always helped this friend with this horse but more so recently due to her truck being out of commission for the time being meaning she can't get to her weekly lessons.

I'll be videoing again today and posting it, our goals are similar to Ollie's.

Get him lifted up and powered from the hind end
Even steady tempo in all three gaits
Smooth rhythmic trantitions
More of a real leg yeild
Moving off the inside leg to steady outside rein and leg contact

I helping the rider wither lower leg, opening her chest, breathing through her arms and holding zephyr accountable for his actions without her compermising her body.

My friend is in a real mental block right now. Making exsuses for why he doesn't do what she asks right away and saying he can't do a trantion up to trot without her messing with the reins a bit to much so I helping her break habits and get tougher!

I love doing this, it's so much fun!

Please tell me what you think

Take note he is scheduled for a teethfloating and feet done this week, a little over due.

Zephyr is on legand shots to help his joints because of his long pencil like confirmation and age (14) he can get very stiff and sore with more then 3-4 days off.

More later today!
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His riders legs and hands are far too busy and unsteady which I think is bothering him in the video. Therefore he is very strung out and working on his forehand. I'm glad you're helping the rider. I don't think the horse can progress until she does.

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I agree with Endiku. Legs all over the place. However, she seems more stable at the canter. I'm not a Dressage rider myself, but in what I've seen, isn't it more customary for a dressage rider to sit the trot? I couldn't imagine posting full-time with stirrups that long. Is there any reason why she is choosing to ride in a dressage saddle/seat but not keeping contact with her horse at the trot?
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^Lower level Dressage riders will sometimes post the trot.
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Stirrups too long, rider in chair seat, hands too busy. Shortening the stirrups alone might help secure the leg, the the rider has a bit of work to do before that horse can move freely beneath her.

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I agree with what's been said. Tell her to soften those elbows! Get some bend in them, bring them on either side of her, point her thumbs at the bit. Having softer elbows and a firm hold on the reins will help her steady her contact. She's lucky to have your help!

Is her leg that unsteady or is she trying to nag him into a bigger trot?
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^Lower level Dressage riders will sometimes post the trot.
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I agree with Endiku. Legs all over the place. However, she seems more stable at the canter. I'm not a Dressage rider myself, but in what I've seen, isn't it more customary for a dressage rider to sit the trot? I couldn't imagine posting full-time with stirrups that long. Is there any reason why she is choosing to ride in a dressage saddle/seat but not keeping contact with her horse at the trot?
You should post the trot during warm up. Sitting trot is for when horse's have nice warmed up loose backs, or for more experienced riders/horses.

Green horses or horses coming back into work generally do best to post the trot.
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I really like this horse!
The rider needs a lot of help though - those stirrups need to come right up, I'd be shortening them at least 3 holes at this stage. Dressage doesn't equal ridiculously long stirrups, and to have longer stirrups you need to have a seat to match. Look at most Dressage rider's stirrup length and you will see that there is actually still quite a solid bend at the knee. In this instance, the rider is fishing for her stirrups constantly, making the lower leg unstable, the knee and thigh grip, the hip is blocked and because she is unbalanced in the saddle, her hands are very busy.

Yank those stirrups up, and start some two point work, with knuckles resting on the horse's crest just in front of the wither, and walk, trot and canter under she can confidently stay in two point at all three paces with her lower leg stead and hands remaining firmly on the crest, not coming up and pulling.

Until she can develop and maintain a stable seat, this horse will not go anywhere. It is all muscle memory, which is why I love 2 point so much - it forces the lower leg to stay quiet and in the correct position, and the knee and thigh to not grip for balance, while the hands can stay quiet.

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