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    06-17-2011, 11:59 AM
  #1
Foal
Is anyone else tired of people calling rodeo abuse?

OK I don't think its abuse. I know a few people at my school who think it's an abomination. That it should be stopped. I think that's absoultly crazy. Some things I don't approve off but honestly its not abuse.

What do you guys think? I know some other equestions who agree with stopping it and some who say its not abuse. Why do you think that?
     
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    06-17-2011, 12:03 PM
  #2
Started
Unforturnately, there's abuse in all disciplines by stupid people. But, I don't think rodeos are abusive in general. I feel for the calves that are roped, but people don't realize how think a cows hide is! I love watching the bronc riding!
     
    06-17-2011, 08:06 PM
  #3
Weanling
I personally dislike rodeos. The way they jump on calves and tie them up..so sad to watch..
     
    06-17-2011, 08:56 PM
  #4
Weanling
I second feeling for the cattle. I also agree that there is abuse in every discipline, and that, if you really want to get technical- half the stuff we do to our horses- I.e, jumping on their backs and expecting them to hold us for hours, sticking metal peices in their mouth and expecting them to go where ever we want without acting up in anyway or else they are punished, is cruel.

That aside, I believe rodeo, to me, is one of the most natural sports out there that deals with horses besides trail riding, simply due to the fact that

1- horses in the wild will go around something before jumping it
2- dressage poses have to be learned, you don't see horses dancing around in a pasture
3- all a horse has to do in rodeo is either run around a barrel, or run and/or cut cattle or bronc a rider, which, is a bit cruel in my opinion, but if we are sticking to the "natural" argument, it is natural for a horse to bronc a predator on its back in the wild and running is a natural gait.

There are pros and cons. It all depends on the horse and rider as inividuals. If your horse puts up a fuss or you hurt your horse, obviously it should be stopped. But if your horse seems to enjoy it and just does as told...why not?
     
    06-17-2011, 09:24 PM
  #5
Green Broke
I'm extremely tired of it.
What gets me, is that everyone I hear complain about it, doesn't understand about horses, cattle, goats, etc. These animals are usually taken better care of than anyone else's animals, these rodeoers use them as their career and can't afford to purposely abuse them. It's also a whole lot harder than people may think. It's beyond difficult to break a calf's neck, they're made to swivel (to a point..not sure what other word to use). Doing so would be a waste of money on the owner's part, and no rancher/farmer/cowboy I know of has money to waste.
And broncs..I don't see one bit of abuse with this. A horse bucks naturally, be it in a pasture or in the wild. The horses aren't forced to buck, they enjoy it. People don't understand this, and as soon as they see the spurs the riders wear they run around screaming abuse like chickens with their ears cut off.
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    06-17-2011, 09:28 PM
  #6
Trained
Threads like this tend to get hot pretty fast. Search the horse protection section or search rodeo abuse and you'll find tons of threads where this has been discussed to death. I think it's just one of those issues where you're never going to convince the other side that you are the one in the right.
     
    06-17-2011, 09:39 PM
  #7
Green Broke
ETA---
I apologise for above post of mine that wasn't finished..no clue how it happened D: this is the full post. ;;


I'm extremely tired of it.
What gets me, is that everyone I hear complain about it, doesn't understand about horses, cattle, goats, etc. These animals are usually taken better care of than anyone else's animals, these rodeoers use them as their career and can't afford to purposely abuse them. It's also a whole lot harder than people may think. It's beyond difficult to break a calf's neck, they're made to swivel (to a point..not sure what other word to use). Doing so would be a waste of money on the owner's part, and no rancher/farmer/cowboy I know of has money to waste.
And broncs..I don't see one bit of abuse with this. A horse bucks naturally, be it in a pasture or in the wild. The horses aren't forced to buck, they enjoy it. A lot of people don't understand this, and as soon as they see the spurs the riders wear they run around screaming abuse like chickens with their heads cut off. The spurs are rounded and rolled across the horse's side, not jabbed. And if you think about what people actually call abuse (with good reason, but I understand why) such as using cattle prods to get the horses out of the chutes, it's not much differed than smacking your horse with a crop while it's trying to shove you into a tree on the trail. A horse will get more injured by going off (late) in the chute, than getting a little shock to get it moving. It's safer for everyone involved, including rider, handlers, and horse. I'd much rather smack the crap out of my horse than have it decided to step off a ledge out on the trail and fly down a rocky hill; it's not much different. And my goodness, a horse that does work for about 8 minutes a year, as opposed to a top dressage horse that needs to be worked near daily, has a much easier life. Hell, I'd rather be a bronc than a dressage horse any day, ha.

Everything a horse does (be it undersaddle, in the pasture, in the wild) is dangerous. A horse can get hurt trotting around if a gopher decides to make an exit/entrance to their home in that area. Life is dangerous, I don't see us only sitting in fields eating grass, some of us sit in an office with only possible "life-threatening" paper cuts, and some of us work in construction where we can get crushed with equipment. Stuff happens, and people shouldn't holler abuse at every single thing they see.
But of course, that's just my opinion. :p
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    06-17-2011, 09:49 PM
  #8
Green Broke
Fact: Bronc and bull riders can get fined and disqualified if their spurs have been "set" and do not roll over the horses/bulls hide. It also gives them less sticking power (advantage animal) because to get points, they need to "spur" aka move their legs in a certain fashion.

Fact: The flank strap helps to animate an already natural motion that a horse makes. It is like a belt that you wear, and is no tighter then that.

False: Flank straps are allowed to have metal in it to poke the horse and annoy it into bucking.

Fact: Rodeo companies work really hard to make sure that their animals are well taken care of. They rotate them, trying to make sure that they do no over use them. Without the stock, they cannot put on the rodeo. Poor quality stock does not perform as well, and means that contestants are less likely to enter another of their rodeos.

Fact: Most rodeo stock enjoy their job, and even know what they are supposed to do. Ever notice how as soon as the rider is off, they stop bucking? Its a game for them. Heck, I would love to work for 16 seconds in a weekend, and that's it!


Anyone who actually is willing to do even the slightest bit of research can find out a lot of information in a short little time. The PRCA is more then willing to give out information on the treatment of their roughstock and the rules that apply to them. They even made it super easy, and have a section on their website dedicated to it. ( See here: http://prorodeo.com/Animal_welfare.aspx)

What a lot of people forget is that most people who rodeo...most...grew up on a ranch or working with animals, and so have grown up learning how to properly treat them. They are their livelihood, and without the animals, wouldn't have a job.
     
    06-17-2011, 10:13 PM
  #9
Weanling
Well said velvet!! :)
     
    06-17-2011, 10:17 PM
  #10
Green Broke
*smoothes her clothes and looks smug*

LOL. I did an essay in grade 12 law about Animal Rights in Rodeo and Horse Racing.
     

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