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Is anyone else tired of people calling rodeo abuse?

21K views 98 replies 30 participants last post by  Stillstandin 
#1 ·
OK I don't think its abuse. I know a few people at my school who think it's an abomination. That it should be stopped. I think that's absoultly crazy. Some things I don't approve off but honestly its not abuse.

What do you guys think? I know some other equestions who agree with stopping it and some who say its not abuse. Why do you think that?
 
#71 ·
Keep in mind, unlike a bison, a LOT of cattle ranchers also use public pastures or rent out land (up here anyway). My grandpa has rented his land out for several years now for a herd of 20 cattle to come and calve during summer. Any doctoring has to be done with horse and rope, they aren't going to build doctoring chutes everywhere.

Likewise, the neighbours have a herd of bison. Due to the sheer size of a bison, they simply aren't mass produced like cattle are. There isn't the need to have to tag them, brand them, or routinely assist with birthing like you do with cows thanks to centuries of domesticated screwed up breeding. They are MUCH better equipped to still handle being left mostly to their own devices. And as stated, they're not a creature you want to transport much, so all bison owners I know keep them strictly at home where they have access to all equipment.
 
#75 ·
If I am not mistaken, there is a technique that uses boots to put immense pressure on the leg until raised. I believe it was made illegal in the actual arena, but some people still use this technique. Done improperly, it could cause pain. Am I wrong? (honestly asking here, but I was informed a long time ago that this was a legitamate technique.)
 
#78 ·
But the pressure would not go away when the leg is lifted.

And dressage people do not want their horses to prance. Nothing about a free moving shoulder = prancing with your lower leg snapping up and down.
 
#79 ·
In saddleseat, you would use a roller band to encourage the upward movement. Some people use 'stretchies' to get that snappy knee action working. I've never heard of it in the dressage ring though....I wouldn't think any knee action was desired in dressage.
 
#83 ·
I have nearly caught up on all the episodes on Netflix now with this whole stupid surgery recovery. I love that show!
Anyways..! There certainly are practices in dressage I don't agree with and I wish didn't happen. But this one is a little nonsensical - hooves are rigid, and if poking nails through the wall won't hurt the hoof, I really fail to see how a boot could be applied then tightened enough to compress the wall to cause discomfort.
I could be wrong, but I've personally never ever heard of this practice.
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#85 ·
I have nearly caught up on all the episodes on Netflix now with this whole stupid surgery recovery. I love that show!
Anyways..! There certainly are practices in dressage I don't agree with and I wish didn't happen. But this one is a little nonsensical - hooves are rigid, and if poking nails through the wall won't hurt the hoof, I really fail to see how a boot could be applied then tightened enough to compress the wall to cause discomfort.
I could be wrong, but I've personally never ever heard of this practice.
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hooves are rigid?? Really?? I thought they were squishy :lol:
No, I was refering to boots like brushing boots and medicine/trail boots. That's what supposedly causes the lift/knee action and the high raise.
 
#87 · (Edited)
We don't want our horses to look like Saddlebreds with knees snapping up every stride, every gait. We need them to come in and out of "higher knee action" movements easily, and we don't want them flinging their legs about at the canter. I can't see how soring would enhance a dressage horse's gait, especially since soring is something that has to be done consistently to get results.
No leg, no dressage horse.
In addition, one can't compete with wraps on - I'm relatively sure that's been a rule for a long time, so it can't have been used in the ring. Beyond that.... what sort of wrap intensifies pressure (without blowing tendons) and releases when the leg is off the ground?
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#88 ·
That's why I thought it was cruel. And, I do believe I mentioned in a previous post something about most of it being illegal in the ring anyway??? However, I do respect your argument about not wanting the horses to resemble gaited horses. I wasn't arguing- I was simply mentioning a technique that I thought was unecessary reguardless of when, how, and by whom it was used. Now, I am also going to mention that this subject is completely off topic of the thread at hand. So, if we are done with this, I suggest we get back on subject. :eek:fftopic:
 
#93 ·
Meh personally I'm glad to clear up any misconceptions when they're presented so that the misinformation isn't spread further.
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agreed, and i thank you for correcting me. It was something I was told, and I had seen at one time, and thought it was used more widely. Thankfully those people were just idiots :)
 
#95 ·
I agree with Velvet and Isuel. Rodeo is what people like me do, its in our blood! If you are concerned about the animals being abused please understand there is no need to be. We take pride in the care that goes in to each and every animal and there is no way we would let anything happen to any of these beautiful animals.
 
#97 ·
In my experience watching majority of the teens in junior rodeo around her use shank bits with chains and are constitantly balance and bracing back on the bit, while kicking and whipping their horse.
that is why i think it is abuse
but i know good riders out there
so I dont think the is it the Rodeo that is the abuse
just how some people ride their poor horses
 
#98 ·
^

This. It kind of makes me roll my eyes sometimes when people are so convinced it's the bronc and bull riding events that are so abusive, and yet half the people barrel racing or riding horses in events need to be shot for their atrocious horsemanship skills and complete lack of anything even remotely resembling feel or compassion for the animal being ridden.

Abuse happens in all events, it really is something that is almost exclusively localized with individual PEOPLE then it is a definitive sport being abusive.
 
#99 ·
I grew up in the ranching community and still care for cattle every day. I did the rodeo thing for over 20 years as did my brothers. The rough stock animals are treated extremely well, they have to be, they are the livelihood for the stock contractors. In any sanctioned event the care and treatment of the animals is of utmost concern.
Yes in barrel racing, and also in the Team Penning and Sorting that I compete in now you do see atrocious riding and lack of care for the horses. But in the long run most of these riders don't last...they can't unless they have the money to keep replacing horses when the ones they ride break down or just quit working. But you see this in many different disciplines. Many of these people don't care to change nor are they interested in any advice.
In the roping events, it really does have its roots in ranching. We do have to rope cattle to treat them, it is a fact of life. But we do it with the best interests of our animals in mind, these animals are our paycheck. Without them we don't survive. We do what we have to do to care for them as efficiently and with as little stress as possible.
 
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