That's why I thought it was cruel. And, I do believe I mentioned in a previous post something about most of it being illegal in the ring anyway??? However, I do respect your argument about not wanting the horses to resemble gaited horses. I wasn't arguing- I was simply mentioning a technique that I thought was unecessary reguardless of when, how, and by whom it was used. Now, I am also going to mention that this subject is completely off topic of the thread at hand. So, if we are done with this, I suggest we get back on subject.