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post #21 of 51 Old 11-08-2012, 11:08 AM
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Originally Posted by Horsecrazy4ever View Post
Hi, just wondering if anyone rides a stallion? I'm looking at getting this teenaged stud(13).... do they make good family/riding/trail horses?

And would it be TOO LATE to geld him? What would be the side effects of gettin' him gelded this late?

Please let me know. Thanks

There are plenty of other horses out there that are already gelded. Why spend the extra money and risk injury when the outcome is so unclear? I would move on and look for something already gelded.
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post #22 of 51 Old 11-08-2012, 12:03 PM
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Originally Posted by TexasBlaze View Post
If you dont plan on using him to breed then it isnt fair to keep him a stallion. IF he is a stallion he will need to be kept away from all other horses and treated VERY differently than a pet would. Stallions needs to be pastured alone as if they arent he could cover mares, hurt himself trying to get in with mares, and start fights with / potentially kill any geldings you have. You'd have to be VERY VERY strict with him even if he IS sweet and unless he's the elvis presley of the horse world it just isnt fair to HIM to keep him a stud and make him miss out on being a horse.

I dont have stallions, however i have two geldings. Gelding my two year old was the best idea of my life. He was turning into a jerk and hated having to be seperated from his friends. Once he was old enough those things were GONE and he was happy and content to run around terrorizing the mares with his "big brother" Blaze.

Dang you act like they're monsters.
No you don't have to keep them alone, they are herd animals and usually end up acting worse of kept on solitary confinement.

As long As no mares are around every stud I've had are great with eachother and other geldings. My studs and geldings all run together and 2 of them have actually been used for breeding. Both are excellent with the young colts. And the colts grow up being great around all other horses males/females.

There is of course the mean/dangerous studs, but they shouldn't have their balls anyway if that's the case.
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post #23 of 51 Old 11-08-2012, 01:34 PM
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I ride a coming 6 y/o Arabian stallion for a friend and frankly, he is better than my other horses when it comes to riding in some aspects. Sometimes i have to whack him cause he gets excited over a mares and just HAS to talk but then it is over with. He could definitely intimidate some though.

I would not recommend it unless you have some experience handling them and working with them.
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post #24 of 51 Old 11-08-2012, 02:31 PM
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I have owned two Arabs that were gelded late and both stopped behaving like studs within a few months after they were gelded. My vet said that result is very common. He's seen it do often that he is of the opinion that human rapists should be castrated.

One of my Arabs never looked like a stud but the other did and his appearance did not change.
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I've ridden our older stud Jester, and a couple others, but generally they are not good to have for family horses. They are generally pretty unpredictable. Ours had manners, some do NOT. I would just geld him.

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Originally Posted by nikelodeon79 View Post
He's seen it do often that he is of the opinion that human rapists should be castrated.
Eh, he might be a good vet but he's not very good at human psychology. Rapists don't do it for the sex, they do it for the power. If they were castrated but otherwise let back out in public, they'd still rape. If they were completely emasculated, they'd just rape with something other than their penises.

People are a lot more complex than animals, especially where sex is involved. So much of it is tied into our emotions and psyche, that castrating an adult human male isn't going to do anything except take away his testicles.
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post #27 of 51 Old 11-08-2012, 05:48 PM
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I would never recommend a stallion as a family horse (assuming by "family" you mean some less experienced or younger riders). I would never want to own a stallion for pleasure riding. There are so many good mares and geldings out there, I just wouldn't want to take a risk on the hormones or memory kicking in.

There are lots of mean, unpredictable, and downright dangerous geldings and mares as well. I wouldn't want them either.

And a very unusual example - this is the exception, not the rule, with stallions: When I was about 12 years old, a dear friend who bred Morgans let me start riding her grand champion stallion (exceptional breeding and training) in the arena - never other horses in the arena - but all the paddocks butted up against the arena. He was a dream to ride and groom. He never did anything dangerous with me. I was allowed to ride him out on her trails a few times as well, and I never had any problems with him. I had strict instructions that if I saw another horse anywhere, I was to immediately go the opposite direction. When their 8-year-old grandson started riding, he learned on that stallion. They gelded him 2 years later so their grandson could show him. Children are not allowed to show stallions. That should tell you something right there.

Of all the horses I've ever ridden, that stallion was the gentlest, most obedient I've ever ridden, with the exception of one: I owned his grand-daughter. She was even better. Genes do matter.

So I think there are some unusual circumstances where a stallion has a lovely temperament and behavior, which will let him be a great family or trail horse once gelded. However, if you're not intimately familiar with the stallion and a very accomplished horseman, being able to judge whether or not this particular stallion is one of those special ones might be very risky.
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post #28 of 51 Old 11-08-2012, 06:27 PM
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Before you jump in, it might be best to check your ordinances. A friend who's property had for years been outside the city limits found himself inside. He boarded a stallion and was then advised to raise his fences to 6' or have the owner geld the horse or find another place.
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post #29 of 51 Old 11-08-2012, 06:53 PM
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I'm sorry rbarlow, but no. Your shetland stallion is a lot different that a full zied 1000+ lb stallion that children may be riding. When a sheltand does something stupid, you fall about one foot to the ground and get off laughing. When it steps on your foot because it doesnt respect you, you say 'ochh!' but it isn't going to sever your foot. When it goes tearing off towards a mare and drags you, you can usually get it under control fairly easily. With a large stallion? It isn't that way. They are DANGEROUS when they get it into their head that they're going to breed another horse or dont want to listen to you. Not that minis and shetlands arent- I've been hurt by a few, but its just not the same.

As for having a kid ride your shetland on a road, with no helmet, bareback for his first ride...well, I'm not going to even go into that. Just because one horse tolerates a lot though, does not mean that others will.

OP- back on subject. Youve been given great advice. I also advise you to just go look for a nice gelding. There are so many to choose from! Stallions are not kids horses, even when being led around. You just can't trust them, even if they appear to be unflappable.

As for gelding him, it can go either way. We gelded a thoroughbred stud (off the track) as a four year old, and he was already so studdy that we just couldn't do much with him- even years after being gelded. He trumpeted to the mares, tried to mount just about everything, and worked himself into a tizzy during breeding season. Opposite of that, we also had a 10 year old foundation QH stallion. He showed well on the circuit, was bred for two seasons, then we gelded him. 8 months after being casterated we could turn him out in a mixed group of mares and geldings without him so much as batting an eyelash. Kids show him now. He was ALWAYS the lead horse though in groups, and is very bossy even as a 15 year old- most likely due to his late casteration.

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Endiku I highly doubt you have ever been around a British Shetland, ever seen one let alone handled one no offence but if you have no knowledge about the breed then you cannot comment on the dangerousness of the breed, yes a bigger horse can in some breeds be stronger and the are taller so can kick you higher up, but do not think for a second that a Shetland pony because of its height cannot hurt someone, an miniture horse or even an american shetland will not have half the strengh of a British Shetland, let me tell you a little fact a two British Shetland can pull the same as a Shire horse, you where not there when my older sister got dragged around a peat hill by a yearling colt that was only about 33" at most at the time, you have never seen just how nasty they can be. As for my sister riding the stallion with out a hard hat on, I had put months and months of work into him before that point, that was the first time he had been ridden not sat on, I knew exactly how he would behave before I even considered taking them on the road, and please notice how my mum is walking next to him.

I am sorry if I sounded rude or anything but saying a British Shetland is not dangerous, and then comparing them in stength to a mini is just ignorant.

Back on topic good luck OP with what ever you decide to do.
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