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        02-09-2011, 10:58 PM
    Angry ARG!!! Bad lesson

    Man it's SOOOO frustrating! I did really well last week in my lesson. I felt so 'in tune' with the horse I ride, jumped well, everything felt more natural like I didn't even have to try. Now this week I'm SO sloppy! I started out pretty good but then I was getting left behind at every jump. Seemed like something so stupid as not getting left behind and being ready for the jump! In my head I'm saying 'Come on stupid you KNOW how to do this!' but it just was aweful! Grrr...ok I'm done ranting...just frustrated is all
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        02-09-2011, 11:00 PM
    It happens to all of us. Seems like sometimes if you lose the feeling it's awfully hard to get back. It's all a learning experience, though! I'm sorry you had a bad ride, best
    Of luck next time!
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        02-09-2011, 11:08 PM
    I felt bad too because the mare I ride is such a good girl and I could tell I was hurting her. Everytime I got left behind at the jump I would end up yanking on the reigns and hurting her mouth. She is very tolerant of my clumsiness to a point but she was getting really annoyed with it after a bit and started pinning her ears back and tossing her head up. My trainer said she was trying to figure out how to get away from my catching her in the mouth. She wouldn't do anything to ME but it was like she was trying to figure out how she could jump differently so that I wouldn't do it. After my lesson I was waiting for my turn in the wash rack, sitting in a plastic chair holding her lead line and she just stood there with her head practically in my lap. I gave her several kisses on the nose and told her how sorry I was I kept hurting her...she's so sweet
        02-09-2011, 11:17 PM
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    I actually have started looking forward to my bad lessons because it reminds me that I can't have it great all the time, and normally pinpoints something that needs work.
        02-09-2011, 11:26 PM
    Well I think I know what the problem was. It was a little bit of a tall cross rail. We were supposed to trot in and canter out, having them land on the correct lead. Normally we just 'hope' for the correct lead but if they don't get it then we're either supposed to go back to the trot or turn in the other direction for that lead. But today we learned how to ASK for them to land on the correct lead. Which I had no problem doing over a smaller cross rail...felt like a pro right off that bat! But this taller cross rail, she is a smaller mare 15.2 or so, I had to get a really forward trot before the cross rail to get her over it and land at a canter. The forward trot was totally throwing me off on my timing of when I was supposed to get up for the jump. Of course I couldn't STOP doing it until I got it right. And then I would get the JUMP right but not the correct lead after the jump so i'd have to do it AGAIN. I just couldn't get the two to right together. Either I would get the jump right but the wrong lead after the jump, or the jump wrong but the right lead after the jump...which she would immediately break from because I caught her in the mouth. FINALLY I got them both right and that was the end of it.
        02-09-2011, 11:35 PM
    Green Broke
    When you warm up, do you do a working, collected/shortened and extended/lenghtened trot? If not, you should start.

    Why would a more forward trot mess you up? It is the same motion...same posting, just maybe slightly faster.

    To help with getting the correct lead, what were you told to do? Outside leg, inside rein? Try also opening your inside hand also just a bit, and LOOK where you want to go. It will help!
        02-10-2011, 01:37 PM
    No, we don't do extended trot. We do collected trotting, getting the horse round and bending. As for how to ask for the correct lead, yes...inside reign outside leg. The trainer even stood where she wanted us to look/go on the other side of the jump so we were already thinking 'right' as we were going over the jump. What throws me off with trotting to the cross rail is for some reason I have a hard time telling WHEN the horse is going to take off over the cross rail. I end up either rushing myself into two point BEFORE the horse is ready or trying to wait and getting left behind. With the canter, I can TELL if there's another stride before the jump or if there's not enough room for another stride. I sometimes feel 'rushed' and I will try to squeeze in an extra stride before the jump but I am getting better about not doing that and my horse is really good at taking off if I 'say' no more strides, take off NOW. But with the trot, especially having to do that forward trot, it's hard for me to tell exactly when to be ready to go over
        02-11-2011, 09:08 AM
    Green Broke
    Let the horse take you to the jump. Don't think about getting in a jumping position. Your horse will close your hip angles when you go over the jump.

    Think about it this way....when you canter or are trotting into a jump, your body is already in a forward incline, right? So really all you need to do for a release is move your hands forward, pressing into the mane for a crest release. Don't make it more complicated then it is!

    Is there a trot rail in front of the jump, or just the crossrail? If there is a one, just keep posting until your horse goes over it, and you'll be fine.

    If there isn't you have a few options....You can post right up to the fence, you can sit trot in from several strides out, or you can go to a light brushing seat a few strides out.

    If you are going to be competing in hunter eq, you might want to learn how to post or sit trot into a fence now anyways, because it sometimes gets asked for in a O/F class.
        02-11-2011, 11:14 AM
    You sound like my instructor She is always saying 'let the horse come up to YOU' when going over the jump. Most times there is a trot rail in front of the jump but this particular lesson there wasn't. I hope I can get some practice in and get better at seems so natural to me now to canter over a cross rail it seems silly that I'm having so much trouble at the trot. I am thinking about leasing the horse I take lessons on but you are not allowed to jump a leased horse unless you're in a lesson so I guess I will have to practice over poles on the ground? Maybe a cavalletti?
        02-11-2011, 12:21 PM
    Green Broke
    If you are allowed to use trot rails when not in a lesson, that would be a good idea. Place them randomly around the arena (not on the rail though) so that you can go around them still, and just practice coming into them. Change the trot up too....dont always do a working trot.

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