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    01-02-2013, 11:18 AM
Backing up problem!?

One of the horses I ride alot has a serious problem with excessivly backing up. Its his way of showing me that he doesnt want to go. He's the sweetest horse ever and Iv'e never had a problem with him bucking or rearing but he won't stop backing up and i'm getting annoyed! I was riding down the road the other day and he started literally running backwards back down the road where we came instead of going forward and it took me 10 minutes to get him going again. He did that about 5 times the whole way and he backed up into a ditch 3 times. Iv'e worked with him alot the past months and have been riding him more than I did and he's a lot better than he used to be. He used to not even go he would just stand there but iv'e got him to where he'll walk around the pasture but I have no idea how to rid him of his backing up problem. Any ideas?
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    01-02-2013, 01:51 PM
He doesn't have a problem backing up. He is acting out his barn sourness. He is backing up as an evasion .

In any case, you want him to go forward and he's refusing and backing up to avoid it, right?
What you need to do is to disengage him when he starts to back up. So, you pick up one rein and lift it more or less straight up. He should band his head way around. (you must loosen the other rein so he can bend way around) you hold the rein , even if he is still backing, until he kind of curls around and he steps his hind end around. If he keeps backing in a circle, you lift the rein a bit more. You want to feel his front end come to a stop and his hind end step around that stopped front.
When he does, you turn his head toward the direction you want to go, give him a looser rein and "offer" him the chance to go forward. Encourage him. If he chooses to back, then go back into disengaging the hind end.
    01-02-2013, 02:20 PM
Thanks I will try that and what about when he backs up into ditches will that work then too?
    01-03-2013, 07:28 AM
When my qh tries to do it I apply the leg first. If no desired reaction (keeps backing up) I add a whip to back up my leg.
    01-03-2013, 07:50 AM
Green Broke
I worked with a horse like that. I kept turning the horse back and forth until I got a forward step. It did take quite a few times before the idea to go forward took over instead of backing. We did back into ditches, trees, and almost an electric fence. It wasn't because of fear but was from a learned behavior that it would get her out of work. The owner would get frustrated with her and put her away. It just took persistence, patience, and consistency to get her thru it. Things the owner didn't have.
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    01-03-2013, 10:34 AM
Green Broke
I just spin my mare..Someone taught her that it got her way if she flew backwards..and now I gotta deal with it (glad we havent run anyone over, come close a few times D: ). She's gotten a lot better with it..but there's times where it comes out of nowhere; I can't feel her tensing, her ears arent pinned, she'e not scared, etc. What I've done is just grab some rein and bring her nose up and around to my boot with leg cues for a spin and we just spin for awhile until she gives to my pressure and stops hanging on the rein I'm holding. Then we continue forward as we were before she threw a fit.

I've also used a whip..took my dressage whip with me and as soon as she started going backwards I applied leg and seat to cue foward..she didnt and got a nice whack on her left and we jumped forward, pinned her ears, and then continued on as intended.
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    01-03-2013, 04:32 PM
Yeah I have no intentions of putting him up when he does that because I know that will only make it worse, I just want him to learn that it's easier to just go forward than to fight me. Me just kicking him doesn't do any good at all and when I give him a little smack on the butt with my reins he just gets mad and kicks up him hind legs. He would never try to buck or anything but his actions drive me crazy but I won't stop working with him and we always get to our destination at some point.
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    01-04-2013, 07:12 AM
Originally Posted by Horselvr98    
when I give him a little smack on the butt with my reins he just gets mad and kicks up him hind legs.
if mine would do that she'd get a stronger smack. Sounds like your horse has no respect for the rider.

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