Bad Ride Today I think I need help (long post) - The Horse Forum
LinkBack Thread Tools
post #1 of 20 Old 05-28-2011, 06:59 PM Thread Starter
Join Date: Apr 2011
Location: Thunder Bay, Ontario Canada
Posts: 492
• Horses: 4
Bad Ride Today I think I need help (long post)

well I have had my paint 3 weeks now and he is usually a great horse but lately he has been acting out. He is fine on the ground and very well mannered. For the first week he was an absolute dream to ride but the place i got him from worked him hard. He was the guide horse at a very busy riding stable. The second week he was still doing great and then one day decided he did not want to go forward. When asked to by squeezing with the legs and clucking he would flatten his ears threaten to rear and kick with his hind legs. Well I am an older rider, not very confident and am just getting back into riding after a several year absence, so I got off him when he did that and spun him in small circles, both directions. After several minutes of this I got back on and he was fine. I rode once after that and he was perfect. Then I didn't get a chance to ride for a week, which brings me to my ride today. I went out to saddle him and he came galloping and whinnying. He stood patiently while I saddled him and got on. then he wanted to take off at a gallop and i didn't let him and used one hand on the rein to pull him in tiny circles and decided to take a turn around the paddock before we started out on a trail ride. The weather was turning bad but I thought a little rain wouldn't kill us. In the paddock he started moving slower and slower with his ears flat back then he refused to move. I tried to urge him forward without getting off and he literally exploded, bucking and rearing like a bronc. He almost threw me. I got off and used the ends of the reins to really get after him and spun him in lots of small circles both directions, and then backed him for a little bit longer than he wanted to. Then we started our ride half way down the drive way he stopped and refused to move and threated to rear and kick when I tried to make him.Then a thunder storm hit with fury and a tree came down terrifying him. I unsaddled him and took him back to the paddock. As soon as I released him he bolted to the back of the little barn we have. I don't really know what to do now I am a little bit nervous to get back on him.
Sponsored Links
post #2 of 20 Old 05-28-2011, 10:57 PM
Join Date: May 2011
Posts: 24
• Horses: 0
I'm 14 and i'm not a confident rider either nothing to be ashamed of!
But this is something that seems like you need help from a professional and thats okay! Horses can sense fear and it seems like this guy is taking advantage of you. With maybe one or two pro rides from a trainer they will be able to help you as to what hes doing. Could be poor saddle fit, something is hurting him who knows!
If only we could read horse's minds! :(
Sorry I couldn't be of any more help!
budgirl123 is offline  
post #3 of 20 Old 05-29-2011, 01:00 AM
Super Moderator
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Seattle, WA
Posts: 40,782
• Horses: 2
My friend leased a beautiful Qh who when she test rode him was a dream to ride. Brought him to her own barn and rode him two or three times just fine. But soon he started doing just what you described, and was also very cranky to saddle up. Found out that he had a very ill fitting saddle which was causing him pain. I dont' know why he did not act up before, as he was in that horrid saddle for a long time. I think it was because his former rider really was aggressive and had him buffaloed, while the new rider was older and somewhat timid. He started to balk and spin and buck and rear.

So, got a new saddle, got him treated for his ulcers, had a chiro check him out, and then started systematically working on the ground with him to build respect in him and confidence in her. Got him correctly shod, as his heels were so low he was in constant pain.

Now, he is retruning to his former self, but he does need a firm hand from the get go, or he takes over.

I would totally recommend doing ground work with this horse (and there is a ton of info on here and videos available online) and checking the fit of his saddle.

I am sure he would have dumped me. I tried to ride my friend's horse, and he dumped me!
tinyliny is online now  
post #4 of 20 Old 06-01-2011, 02:00 PM
Join Date: Dec 2008
Posts: 491
• Horses: 0
Sounds like he is used to a lot more work and schooling on a very regular basis. If you don't have time to ride you might try lunging or long lining him to keep him thinking and working. I would also call the ppl you bought him from and ask if this is typical behavior when he isn't worked consistently. Sounds like whenever you get after him he does what is asked, but is very opinionated, hence why he may have been worked really hard at his old home. perhaps enlist the help of a trainer to get through this.
SaddleUp158 is offline  
post #5 of 20 Old 06-01-2011, 06:13 PM
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Connecticut
Posts: 8,157
• Horses: 0
He sounds like he's quickly gaining the upper hand. Luckily, things like this can sometimes be fixed rather quickly with one good training session with an experienced rider, someone who can have a good "conversation" with your horse about what is acceptable behavior, and also teach you appropriate training corrections for his actions. If you have access to a good trainer, I would start there. No sense in getting hurt. He sounds like he'll just keep escalating until you meet him with a proportionate response.

You just have to see your don't have to like it.
MyBoyPuck is offline  
post #6 of 20 Old 06-02-2011, 08:49 AM
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: Aberdeenshire
Posts: 58
• Horses: 0
First off I would rule out any pain related issues, get saddle fit checked, back checked, teeth checked etc. Once all these have been ruled out I would then spend time doing lots of groundwork exercises, lunging, long reining and then when you are ready to get back on make sure there is someone else there with you.

If you have another friend that is able to go on horse back that might be an idea too. You say you have had him just a few weeks, have you moved him away from what he is familiar with? If so he could be very unsettled due to the move. Does he have any others horses there? Either way he could be still settling in to his new surroundings or if he is there as the only horse he may be having confidence issues if he is used to having other horses in the field etc.

I hope some of that is of use to you and if you want to ask questions feel free.
Michelle and Mr B is offline  
post #7 of 20 Old 06-06-2011, 11:09 AM Thread Starter
Join Date: Apr 2011
Location: Thunder Bay, Ontario Canada
Posts: 492
• Horses: 4
Thank you for all your advice I really appreciate it. It is nice to know that there are other riders like me that are not very confident sometimes. Later on that same day it all happened (after the thunder storm was over) I went back out and saddled him and then lunged him for about 20 minutes, and did other ground work with him. I was not very confident in myself (lets face it, I was scared) but I thought that if I didn't get back on soon the longer I waited the harder it would be for me. So I got back on him and we went on a 1 hour trail ride and he behaved perfectly. He seemed to gain a new respect for me after doing the lungeing and I have ridden him several more times and he has not behaved badly. In fact he does the "Joining up" thing with me now every time i go into the paddock. I am not ruling out a bad saddle fit causing some of the problems that day and I have a very experienced horseperson coming out within the next two weeks to check that for me. I think also the storm was causing the horse to be very nervous and perhaps he just didn't have enough faith in me as a leader at that time, being in a new place with a new owner. The lungeing and groundwork seemed to make a big difference in his attitude. I am amazed at how something as simple as that can really increase the horses respect and trust in you.
post #8 of 20 Old 06-06-2011, 11:21 AM
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: Grant, TN
Posts: 75
• Horses: 1
Sounds like he is somehow in pain to me. I would definitely vote something is wrong with his tack or he's got something going on physically. Pain can make a good horse go bad every time, but you can't blame them. Gotta rule that out before you start thinking its a behavior issue, I think.
Good Luck!
Raidress is offline  
post #9 of 20 Old 06-08-2011, 03:56 PM
Join Date: Apr 2011
Location: PA
Posts: 29
• Horses: 0
I avidly read your post and the replies; I'm having similar issues myself with a horse I am considering leasing. She is a morgan/draft, so nice and big..and is up for lease/adoption/sale because she did the very thing you describe. When asked to go foward one day, she just exploded and dumped her rider. Can't ask for a nicer horse on the ground; very respectful and friendly. I rode her yesterday and when I asked her to walk, she went backwards. I was very cautious at the point, did not want her to rear...or buck. I am 56 and am wondering if I should be in the horse training business at my age when all I really want to do is have nice quiet trail rides!
kathyk is offline  
post #10 of 20 Old 06-08-2011, 04:19 PM Thread Starter
Join Date: Apr 2011
Location: Thunder Bay, Ontario Canada
Posts: 492
• Horses: 4
Hi Kathy in your case was the mare wearing the same tack as always? If so I doubt it has anything to do with pain. I know how you feel in regard to the training issue and your age I am 50 and am somewhat more aware of my mortality and safety than I was years ago. I too just want a nice quiet trail ride. My horse has not acted up since that one time but I am always worried that he will and at the first sign of any misbehavior(such as stopping or pinning his ears) I spin him in small circles. I don't know if this actually helps or not but so far he has been good.

Quick Reply

Register Now

In order to be able to post messages on the The Horse Forum forums, you must first register.

Already have a Horse Forum account?
Members are allowed only one account per person at the Horse Forum, so if you've made an account here in the past you'll need to continue using that account. Please do not create a new account or you may lose access to the Horse Forum. If you need help recovering your existing account, please Contact Us. We'll be glad to help!

New to the Horse Forum?
Please choose a username you will be satisfied with using for the duration of your membership at the Horse Forum. We do not change members' usernames upon request because that would make it difficult for everyone to keep track of who is who on the forum. For that reason, please do not incorporate your horse's name into your username so that you are not stuck with a username related to a horse you may no longer have some day, or use any other username you may no longer identify with or care for in the future.

User Name:
Please enter a password for your user account. Note that passwords are case-sensitive.


Confirm Password:
Email Address
Please enter a valid email address for yourself.

Email Address:


Human Verification

In order to verify that you are a human and not a spam bot, please enter the answer into the following box below based on the instructions contained in the graphic.

Old Thread Warning
This thread is more than 90 days old. When a thread is this old, it is often better to start a new thread rather than post to it. However, If you feel you have something of value to add to this particular thread, you can do so by checking the box below before submitting your post.

Thread Tools
Show Printable Version Show Printable Version
Email this Page Email this Page

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Ground work saved a LIFE today! Long, sorry! shesinthebarn Natural Horsemanship 36 09-07-2012 06:11 PM
Did you ride today? GarlicBread Horse Talk 17 10-18-2010 12:35 AM
My ride today Mingiz Trail Riding 4 05-10-2010 08:15 PM
Went and looked at a horse rant (long). AlmostThere Horse Talk 19 03-08-2010 11:36 AM
I got to ride today! Draftgirl17 Horse Riding 3 12-27-2009 10:36 PM

Posting Rules  
You may post new threads
You may post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On

For the best viewing experience please update your browser to Google Chrome