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post #1 of 20 Old 08-15-2012, 08:02 PM Thread Starter
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Unhappy Barn Soured

When riding my stalion will take off with him self and all I have is a bitless bridle. I ask for a small trot but he wants to gallop back to his food I'll pull back on the reins but he dosnt slow down. I'll have to turn really hard and I hate doing that cause it hurt him, I'm afraid he'll hurt me or himself. What should I do I'll be able to get a bridle with a bit soon.
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post #2 of 20 Old 08-15-2012, 08:04 PM
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Get a trainer.

Pssh.I didn't pick up the wrong lead
It's called a counter canter...
...A very advanced maneuver.
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post #3 of 20 Old 08-15-2012, 08:28 PM Thread Starter
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Get a trainer.
Well here at the moment I'm still living wih my parents and don't have enough to hire one he is older than most horses he was fine the first two weeks of riding but then he started getting out of hand I hope he'll do better with a bit
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Are you a beginner? If so, WHY did you get a stallion? They are only for the most experienced of horse people as they are much more difficult to handle. Based on what you said here, you are well on your way to becoming extremely hurt from an accident.
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If you were to consider he was in my family from the day he was born he's 25 and I my self 15 I'm quite the good rider he's hadn't been ridin for a while after my grandfather died so he became barn soured I've been teach him to jump and he responded well but when I ask for anything he gose nuts and takes off. I don't really use bits unless I have one which my parents seem to have hidden or put my bridle away then lost it. It was where I put it b they moved it so it's not my fault all the reason I'll have to get a new one. He's always very gentle, we've got to a stage where he will jump bearback and not have any problems. The only thing I'm asking is, is there any way to break him from his stage of all he wants to do is eat. I have someone to tell me all about him how he was star dressage performer in the barn and won many shows with his looks but hats not what I'm worried about I take very good care give him his grain after he works. Then brush and send him off to his hay.
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post #6 of 20 Old 08-16-2012, 02:42 AM
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I say you shouldn't be riding him at all until you are able to get professional help. Period. You are very likely to hurt yourself and teach the horse some VERY dangerous behavior.

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post #7 of 20 Old 08-16-2012, 04:55 PM
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Every time he does this? It is making it that much harder to fix.

You don't need to be riding this horse is my thought, but if you are determined to, don't go faster than a walk.

You are not experienced enough to be working with this horse, with or without a bridle from what you have written.

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I am by no means a thoroughly experienced rider, I have ridden a couple of stallions in fairly controlled conditions. That being said, it is a dangerous habit he is forming, stallion or not. If you are unable to turn him around and ride him in the opposite direction, spin him, and recoup some sense of calm -Stallion aside, the horse needs someone with a firm hand who can demand his respect. When we ride, we demand that our horses be able to ride back to the barn on a loose rein at a dog walk to cool down -if they don't do that, they get tuned up.

Have you tried turning him around and riding him in the opposite direction until he calms repeatedly until he can walk back?

Another thing, do you have mares at your property? I know a stallion can be urgent to get home and be tough for even the most experienced of riders if there are mares around. My mother in law has a great little stud, he is a wonderful, gentle horse, but put mares around, even in stalls outside the arena and he can be extremely difficult and shes been riding for 45 years
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post #9 of 20 Old 08-16-2012, 07:28 PM Thread Starter
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I'm always in the pen never leave our 3 aver pen he has his mare and she normally stands by and waits to see as he rounds a bend she's also prego today I tried feeding before riding (very hard headed) he seemed to be doing better but always seems lazier when I feed him after. Then dose his mean he is barn soured or just want to eat his grain.
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post #10 of 20 Old 08-16-2012, 08:03 PM
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I agree with the other posters who say 1. you might not be ready to ride a stallion and 2. you need a trainer. But I realize in real life, this might not be an option so here is my advice going off that premise.

First, never ride him out of the ring/pen. Always dismount and walk out so he doesn't learn that going near the gate means going in. Second, I wouldn't ride him before you feed him or during the time other horses are getting fed. He should not have grain waiting in his stall for him after the ride. Thirdly, he obviously has no respect for you or your aides. You need to work with him on bending and submitting to pressure off the ground so when you are on him, he is easier to control and doesn't just barrel through the pressure. Ideally, you would stop in the direction towards the barn. Lightly ask for a walk. If he breaks into a faster gait turn him a few times and make him work. Then stop facing the barn, let him catch his breath and repeat.

Oh, and don't take him back at a trot. When your ride is over and you are ready to take him back you should be walking him out and letting him cool off. You have taught him to run back to the barn by trotting him to it. Honestly this fact alone makes me think that maybe you need a trainer or someone to help guide you. I know that everyone who rides doesn't take lessons and most people ride their horses for fun. But there are still things you should and should not do. And the fact that he has a mare near by, grain waiting for him, and you trotting back to the barn is all a dangerous mix.
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