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    08-03-2008, 02:01 AM

I was watching a documantry today on the BLM and there control of the wild mustang since the debate section was taken away from us this would of been the perfect place for it....i was shocked to learn that up untill the early 1970's that the wild mustangs were protected untill bill was signed...sending thousands of mustang to slaughter... sick isn't.... the other thing that really shocked me and make me wonder why we have a blm is that they have often rounded up mustangs, forgot about them in there trapping correls for weeks on end , leaving the horses to die a horrable death with out food our water...yeah this has gone unnoted to the public.....the BLM control of the mustangs makes me wonder how we even have any of them left.....when a herd is cought, young mustangs are cought and sold..older ones (lame or to old to breed) are turned loose and the rest are sent to slaughter....yeah you got it...the blm will do that...though they were here to protect the mustangs but there lining there pockets with cash from the ranchers, gas comps who will do any thing to get rid of these horses....shocking isn't?
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    08-03-2008, 02:04 AM
Green Broke
There are too many wild horses and not enough people to adopt them out. There are issues with lack of food resources. It's a tough situation trying to figure out what to do.

People have to get involved if they don't want to see the horses killed. That means adopting them.
    08-03-2008, 03:54 AM
Its not that there are too many horses. There are too many people. We don't have the right to take their homes just to have ours.

    08-03-2008, 12:19 PM
Green Broke
This is a hot topic. First of all - the mustangs would not be here if it was not for humans bringing them over. They are not wild horse, but rather feral horses. They were domestics that had gotten loose.

Secondly, yes the BLM is driven by money as is any agency. The thing is - they have a very, very limited budget and can only do so much. The reason they keep the younger horses for adoption is the fact that they can adopt those out and have better luck finding homes for them. They have holding pens and large amounts of land as sactuaries for them. All these horses need feed, vet care, wormings, etc. All that costs money - and they only have limited amounts. So their decisions have to be money-based so they don't go bankrupt.

As to the reason why they have to bring the horses in - its a matter of brining some in off the range and adopt them (or even euth them) or let them face a worse fate of starvation.

For those that are up in arms about the mustangs - what have you done lately to help? I have a BLMer in my backyard right now. But if you don't have the resources to adopt you can sponsor a BLMer in one of the sanctuaries. You can send well thought-out and researched letters to your government representatives telling them what you would like to see changed.

Personally I would like to see 1 - no more land taken away from the mustangs. 2 - herd kept at genetically viable levels - they have unfortunately thinned out several of the herds below genetic viability and 3 - money put towards research for effective contraceptive for the mare to reduce the number of mares born so fewer have to be brought in for adoption.

Also - look at who you vote for in the future. Are they a government representative likely to do anything for our mustangs? The BLM gets their funding from the government - so how our government representatives feel about mustangs will impact the financing the BLM. More financing the BLM gets, the better they can manage the horses without having to take extreme measures.
    08-03-2008, 12:42 PM
Green Broke
As a person that works in state government, there's not much that you can do but be driven by money.

If you don't have the money, some project has to be taken of the plate. Period. We are losing a ENTIRE hatchery in Washington state due to money issues. That is thousands and thousands of fish that would normally be stocked for the enjoyment of the public.

The horse situation is the same way. There is only so much money to manage the program.

So, my question would be, to those of you who have serious problems with the mustang program, how many of you have adopted one or are right now in the process of adopting one to help out the situation?

My family has adopted well over 20 over the past 15 years until my Grandpa couldn't train them anymore and passed away a coupld of years ago. He loved them, knew they weren't true mustangs, but loved them. He broke them and sold them to the Forest Service as riding and pack horses.
    08-04-2008, 04:25 PM
Green Broke
I plan to adopt a BLM mustang someday!
    08-06-2008, 11:52 AM
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Here the real problem the range can hold 27000 and has 35000. The local ranchers used to kept there number down. But, the public found out and didn't like their way of doing it. So the goverment took over, and this lead to the current problem. Here my solution A partnership between the ranchers and the goverment, similar to the old remount program of the old horse cavarly days.
If we do nothing there will be alot of dead and dieing horse. This could someday be a problem in the eastern state to some a releasing unwanted horse in the wild. Most I sure are old, sick and cripped, but if a breeding pair got together. The number would grow.

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