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        03-22-2013, 05:34 PM
      #11
    Weanling
    We have an ex-racer TB and when we got her, she hadn't been ridden for 6 years (and prior to that only on the racetrack) so we started her off lunging her with the saddle for a long time - then had the stirrups flapping next to her whilst lunging - then my son laid across her back whilst she was stood still then my son sat on her - which she didn't mind at all (but this was my youngest son). BUT if my eldest son gets on her and uses his legs, it's a different story - she'll go backwards, sidewards and has bucked him off. We were told (by a recehorce rescue worker) that when they are trained as racehorses, jockeys don't use their legs (watch a race, and see where their legs are) so she just isn't used to any leg use at all.
    She's just foaled so we'll be sending her away locally to be re-backed next year (going to give her 12 months with the foal before we work her) so i'd just go with the professional angle personally but I have no experience with training horses at all so I've no other option
    Good luck - I think every horse deserves a chance - but make sure your safety comes first xx
         
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        03-22-2013, 06:20 PM
      #12
    Green Broke
    I've started a few older horses. As was said, they can be alot more resistant, especially a dominant mare type like this. It would be ideal if you could get a reputable trainer to put the first few months on her for you.


    If you really want to start her your self, First, go back to desensitizing. Get her used to things flapping all over her body, and concentrate on her back end. You want her very comfortable with ropes all over, and things flapping over, under and around her. Ground drive her. Once she is totally ok with things on her body, move on to things on her back.

    Make sure she is totally comfortable with a saddle, things above the saddle and stirrups flapping. Then get her used to you getting on bareback. Jump on so you are laying over her back, stomach down. In this possition pat her all over, butt, sides, neck, etc. squirm around, slide off. Repeat with the other side. When she accepts this calmly, complete mounting. Lean forward, lean back, move your legs all over, slide off her butt. Try with a saddle. Repeat untill she is comfortable with the whole process, on both sides. Then ask for forward motion.

    By doing groundwork that builds respect, and step by step desensitizing her to things on her back, you take away the two main reasons a horse will try to get rid of its rider, fear and disrespect.

    I can't tell you how many times I have seen people get tossed off green horses, and 99.9999% of the time the horse is disrespectful or they havent been properly desensitized to having a person and tack on their back.

    Coincidentally, my favorite mare to ride on the farm sounds like this mares twin. Queen of the herd, solidly built and very tall, plus she is reactive and she knows how powerful she is, so two trainers were afraid of her. Once you know her though, she's amazing.
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        03-23-2013, 05:52 AM
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    Hi Maple thankyou for your reply, yes I think it is NH Her father was bred for, her father is Primitive Rising (USA) if you have heard of him, im told he was quite famouse. She is HUGE.
    Her siblings are used as eventers and cross bred with warmbloods, they are all bred by louella stud, I have tried emailing them about Cherry but no response.

    I have had a ex jocky, very short irish man (rather cute), come look at her he only charges 10 pound an hour for riding and training etc but he said he wanted me to get on her back and get her used to the bit first, its hard to explain and its pretty unbelievable but people who don't know the real her are very scared of her,
    I had an extremely good vet out to her when she had her abscess and even the vet was rather scared about getting in the stable with her, its really that bad, but I can do pretty much anything with her!!

    I really want to try her without a trainer even if its just the next step so then I can get the ex jocky out to help me, so I really need advice on where to go with her next?????

    I have broke and trained all sorts of horses with all their different problems but never one so old, oldest iv worked with has been only 5.. and that was a 14.2h welsh D.. lol
    Yes, alot of the NH horses are built like tanks

    As for the jockey - chances are he is a well seasoned rider. Jocks in Ireland/UK don't tend to just race ride - every jockey I know hunts, jumps, breaks and brings on their own horses. Saying this, "ex jockey" could also mean he has lost his bottle, or wasn't particularly good If he is trying to sway you to get on first, I'd think it is the first option.

    I would think she needs the assistance of a professional trainer - There is a trainer who specialized with "problem" horses and if you want his name and number I can send it to you in a PM. I haven't dealt with him personally, but know some "professionals" who have and he is meant to be quite repitable.

    Reckyroo - If this mare was riding before and is NH bred she will be used to legs. The trainers tend to do a lot of roadwork and schooling - some even go to professional dressage trainers and go hunting.
         

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