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post #11 of 17 Old 01-04-2011, 01:34 AM
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I really don't want to start an arguement, but I just don't agree.

It's all about training & experience!!

Wether your talking about horses or kids/humans.

I would trust with my life my 10 year old cousin that grew up on a farm & had been taught the ropes & has common sense, can drive a tractor & car on the property & listens & learns from his elders, than one of my sisters 18yo friends.
The 18yo has no clue about pretty much anything, very vague & demanding, very spoilt, is never happy even with all the gadgets that get bought for her, brand new everything that gets broken & trashed. And recently drove me into a house in my sister's car, by just being plain ignorant & then laughed it off. - Just an example

The 10 year old is very smart & forward thinking, & can handle a lot of different situations that pop up.

The 18 yo..... well the lights are on but no ones home. And would crumble under sitiuations less than what my cousin could handle.

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post #12 of 17 Old 01-04-2011, 01:50 AM
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Just to add, I really do get what people are trying to say by buying an older first horse & that is advisable, but don't think that just because the horse is older that it will be more well trained & have more experience than a younger horse just because they are older.

Look at all horses & the training, experience & temperament they have. And judge for yourself. Also don't take all sellers on their word - try before you buy.

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post #13 of 17 Old 01-04-2011, 09:49 AM
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While it may not necessarily be true that an older horse will be super calm and super well mannered, and a four year old might...that four year old has what? Two years of under saddle work AT MOST. And depending on the breed, hopefully only a year. Their nature might be very good, they might have been well trained, but how much experience can they get in a year?

Let's look at it like this. Joe Blow got a new job one year ago as a doctor. Many times he has to get another doctor in the hospital to give him a second opinion, because of his short experience. Joe is a great doctor, and very nice, but he just hasn't been in his field long enough to know as much as the older doctors.

The other doctors have more than 10 years experience, and have seen and experienced a lot.

Mark Park, one of the experienced doctors, although he is experienced, is careless and displays rude behavior. Despite his years of experience, he knows quite a bit less than the other doctors of his experience years.

Basically, yes, there are older horses that are NOT beginner fit, but I have never met one 4 year old horse that I'd say is beginner safe. They can be so well behaved, but they are STILL green. Green+Green=Black&Blue. Because the horse after one year of training is still green, still has a lot to learn, they need an experienced rider to guide them and teach them and finish their training. They WILL have green moments, no matter how good natured. They will need a rider who knows how to handle those moments, and how to make it a positive experience.

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post #14 of 17 Old 01-04-2011, 09:56 AM
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I think it depends on a couple of things. A young horse with a good mind will be OK if you:

-Continue with regular lessons from a good trainer to ensure that you are training the horse effectively. A horse that is only 4yo will still require quite a bit of training and you want that done correctly in the beginning to save trouble later!
-Understand that the horse is young and you are prepared to work with the horse. What I mean by this is that you won't be able to just hop on and go for a ride all the time, a lot of your time in the saddle will be spent finishing him.

If you would rather have a horse that allows you to work solely on your own riding abilities (and this is perfectly fine for a rider still starting out), I would look for something older with a little more training and experience. I would have said 8yo - 15yo depending on what the horse has been doing previously.

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post #15 of 17 Old 01-05-2011, 12:50 AM
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I think it depends on a couple of things. A young horse with a good mind will be OK if you:

-Continue with regular lessons from a good trainer to ensure that you are training the horse effectively. A horse that is only 4yo will still require quite a bit of training and you want that done correctly in the beginning to save trouble later!
-Understand that the horse is young and you are prepared to work with the horse. What I mean by this is that you won't be able to just hop on and go for a ride all the time, a lot of your time in the saddle will be spent finishing him.

If you would rather have a horse that allows you to work solely on your own riding abilities (and this is perfectly fine for a rider still starting out), I would look for something older with a little more training and experience. I would have said 8yo - 15yo depending on what the horse has been doing previously.
Thumbs up to this.

With any young horse, rider errors will be much more apparent. Older horses who are well trained can be much more forgiving of rider errors. A young horse that's great for an experienced rider may only be that good because the rider is experienced!

That's a great point though, that further justifies the point that a beginner probably needs an older horse - because you need to work on YOU more than anything!

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post #16 of 17 Old 01-05-2011, 12:37 PM
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My horse is my first, and is also a 5 year old. She has a great mind and is super loyal/honest. That being said, she has taken a lot of hours (and so have I) to get to where we are at now (6 months into our partnership), and we will need to continue working together consistently to get to where I want to go. Also, I'm not sure I would've bought a 4 year old...my girl came with just enough under saddle experience that I could pick up and go from there. My mare is still more talented then I am, so between the two of us we make a good pair but it does take patience.

Sarahver had an AWESOME post. I 100% agree with a lesson a week. There are people who will argue this, but in my opinion, there is no way to get better/more developed without eyes on the ground (and this applies to all levels) and a person who knows both you and your horse.

Edit: I didn't realize this was geared to a beginner rider. I would say I'm an intermediate rider and we are training solid first level right now. I've had about 14 years of experience on and off. I think if the OP is a beginner but confident in learning and the "process" that goes with buying an honest/loyal younger horse then go for it. But it does have its downfalls. You would get A LOT more enjoyment out of an older schoolmaster (12+) who can really show you the ropes!!!

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My first horse was an OTTB and also barely 5 years old when I got him. Supposedly the worst combo possible. I had however been leasing TB's for years before that and was very used to their antics. I bought the personality more than anything else. My number 1 priority was "safe". While there really is no such thing, just make sure what you do end up with is a good fit for you. There are too many good horses out there to be stuck with one that is going to mess with your head.

You just have to see your distance...you don't have to like it.
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