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    06-20-2012, 08:05 AM
Can someone please explain?

Okay, so I live in Australia and I see all the video and photos of Americans doing "hunter jumping" and they just call it jumping.
1) why don't we have this in Australia?
2) do they jump normally in America?(not meaning to offend anyone)
3) why do you jump in that position?
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    06-20-2012, 08:10 AM
We do actaully :) Its just not as common!

Its mostly the little hunter ponies at Royals and all that stuff :)
The jumps are more natural and not as high. Judged on horse and riders position :)
    06-20-2012, 08:25 AM
So confused. :s so how does it differ from show jumping? Sorry brain no work today lol
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    06-20-2012, 08:27 AM
There are both hunters and jumpers in America.

Jumpers are pretty much just like what you have in Australia.

Hunters are judged subjectively on manners, way of going and jumping style and are more or less supposed to be a type suitable to be a foxhunter. Fences are natural and supposed to simulate fences found in the hunt field.

I'm guessing you don't have them in Aus because the discipline evolved from foxhunting and field hunters, though show hunters are pretty far removed from field hunters at this point.

Courses contain related distances and at more competitive shows, only horses that do the lines in the correct number of strides will pin. A high premium is also placed on clean, calm lead changes in the corners and/or landing from the fence on the correct lead. Wrong leads, simple changes or late changes behind are seriously penalized. Steady pace, good jumping style and a consistency of "spots" or distances are rewarded.

The rider is not judged in hunter under saddle or hunter over fences. You see some hunter riders in a strange exaggerated position, standing up in their stirrups and laying on the horse's necks. It's mostly an ineffective fad, and I hope it passes, soon!
    06-20-2012, 02:46 PM
I don't hope it passes :( I've been riding hunter jumper from the very beginning of my training. Its a pretty huge deal here in fl, though a lot of people feel its "stuffy". I find it enjoyable and extremely effective as far as the horses involved (can't say much for the riders in exaggerated positions, I like a nice, straight backed, even two point over my fences, and so far the judges have agreed)

I finished my mare in hunters previous to starting trail with her, and I've found that it does wonders for when she starts to get to big for her britches. The strictness of the discipline really puts her in my hands, and even if she just spent an hour being an absolute brat on a trail I can bring her back to a nice rounded collection, do a few lead changes, poles or crossrails, and she's back to being my big red respectful annie.

Currently the discipline is flooded with warmbloods, sport horses, and mixed ponies. There were twenty seven kids on ponies in the crossrails class last town show I went to, but wellington is flooded with huge bay european breeds.
It is extremely removed from actual foxhunting, and though it really has no purpose but looking fancy and competing, I know tons of people who truly enjoy it. Maura pretty much explained the things a hunter is judged on and expected to achieve, but there's a happy side to it too!
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    06-20-2012, 06:38 PM
Its funny cos I haven't noticed anyone is an exaggerated position! Maybe I just look at the horses lol ;)
    06-20-2012, 07:11 PM
Thank you very much, I now understand!
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    06-20-2012, 07:43 PM
I wish we had it in aus though, I think id enjoy it. :)
    06-20-2012, 07:48 PM
Thank you all! I actually didn't realize there was that big of a difference either! Great to know and finally understand the real difference between a jumper and a hunter jumper.
    06-20-2012, 09:16 PM
We do have it! Its just not as common :)

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