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    04-04-2008, 12:14 PM
Originally Posted by HorsesAreForever
well I know she's pretty much finished because I've seen her be shown , trail ridden, jumped a ton of logs out in the feild no problems. I think she's becomes servely herd bound. And maybe ur right maybe she's not finished at all but I mean I've seen what she can do
Mainly, I think, the reason that she's freaking out is because you are...I can get on Sonny and be all calm...but the minute I go into panic mode, he goes into it also...if I tense us...he tenses up. It's the bond between the rider and their horse....Chance can sense that you are nervous when you are on her...she doesn't know why you are nervous, but she knows you are afraid of something, and that is making her become afraid.

Clear your mind and picture you are riding Chance in a show...she is doing everything correct because YOU have confidence that she can do it. Our emotions, posture, and attitude will have an affect on how the horse acts....they can sense if we are nervous, angry, or happy.

If you go to ride Chance and you are starting to fell uncomfortable, do NOT get on...walk around the arena with her by your side until you feel confident to try again. Don't push yourself to do something that you aren't ready to do. It was the same thing with me...I was afraid to canter on my horse due to he'd either not stop, trip, or gallop instead...I did not canter at all until I was good and ready, and I had no butterflies in my stomach.

Remember that Chance isn't doing this just to be mean...she is as frightened as you are... she's picking up on your nervousness and thinking that something horrible is going to happen.

Let us know how it goes and keep us updated!!
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    04-04-2008, 12:25 PM
Green Broke
Thxs :) im definitely going to work on getting over this and I think that is why she fliped cause I was nervous and I knew I shouldnt get on but idk self consiously I was like I have to. But I also think chance is herd bound like seriously sometimes its almost impossable to get her away from them so im going to start stalling her and letting her out a few hours during the day instead of allday all night. That will give me a good opertunity to really work with her aswell. Cause like I said I've jumped her over 2 foot 6 and seen her do a cross country course out in the feild so im thinking some of it is due to being herd bound Besides stalling her any other ideas to get her away from being herd bound??
    04-04-2008, 12:42 PM
Originally Posted by HorsesAreForever
well I know she's pretty much finished because I've seen her be shown , trail ridden, jumped a ton of logs out in the feild no problems. I think she's becomes servely herd bound. And maybe ur right maybe she's not finished at all but I mean I've seen what she can do

And last summer I jumped her over 2'6" so she's not really green
Sorry, HAF, but if Chance is nearly "finished" (the term being used loosely to describe a horse that w/t/c/stop/back/lateral movemets/discipline-specific movements without being bad) ... it doesn't sound like it - a "finished" horse doesn't take off, rear, and toss her head around. Isn't she only 5 years old?
Just because a horse has shown, been trail ridden and jumped doesn't mean it's finished - I've shown, jumped, and trail ridden many many greenies, and let me tell you, they were G-R-E-E-N!! I'm not trying to argue with you, I'm just letting you know that you shouldn't expect a horse that's done those things to be completely finished - that would be a big mistake and if that's what you're expecting, you might be sorely disappointed.
Really it sounds like she is a green horse that needs a lot of work; and if you're willing to go with the guidance of your trainer, then go for it! But, like I said before - Chance is at a very impressionable age, one where you have to be confident in what you're doing to teach her the right things to do... She sounds like a nice horse that does have potential, and if you think you can bring it out in her, I wish you the best of luck, and will help where I can, but you have to realize that Chance does need work.

How has her stopping been recently? Have you worked her since you last posted? How was she?
    04-04-2008, 12:52 PM
Green Broke
The more I think about it I guess I agree with her being green. Which im more then willing to spend time with her and realllly work with her as much as I can. Yes she is only 5. And accually if she's paying attention she stops right when I asked sometimes might take a extra step but besides that she stops if she's paying attention. And im going up there tomorrow and hoping to get some videos and pictures maybe you guys can tell me whats going on with her. And I know she has it in her to be a good well behaved horse and will be a good jumper with a lot of work like I said im willing to work with her but I may need some help from you guys along the way because my barn doesnt believe in natural horseman ship or anything I do so I can't always depend on them to help me out
    04-04-2008, 04:10 PM
HAF good for you for taking a different training route then what your barn offers (sometimes it's not always the best methods) It's nice to hear that you are now admitting that she is green, should make your training job a bit easier. Now what you are considering her green, you will have more patience and a better work ethic. You are not going to get on her and expect her to be "finished."

Just some advice:

Remember firm but gentle. Never hit, yell or get angry with your horse. They are an animal and without your guidance they will never know the difference between right and wrong. Be a positive influence in your horses life. The more they like you they better they will work for you. Take time to love and cuddle her, not just work her. I find my love sessions often accomplish more then my working sessions. Remember as long as you can be your horses best friend they will strive to be yours. Good luck, and I hope you guys can develop a strong bond. There is no better feeling in the world then a true and honest bond between horse and rider.

So once again HAF good luck and would love to see videos and photos.
    04-04-2008, 05:09 PM
Green Broke
FGR- Ty :) that accually was really touching and every part of it was true. And I usually give a firm tap only hit if its 100% nessacary. I try not to yell because its not like they can understand but sometimes its kinda hard for me not to raise my voice but im working on being more gentle and patient im still learning :) everyone is :) and since im going up there tomorrow ill get videos and poor girl got in a fight and took a small chunk off of her hoof so we are having a farrier come out on the 10th to fix it probably will have to sadate her cause its almost impossible to pick up her hooves ill post that in a diff topic later lol
    04-04-2008, 08:55 PM
Your welcome and I'm glad you found my words touching.
    04-04-2008, 09:15 PM
Green Broke
Welcome :)
    04-05-2008, 02:43 AM
1. Theres no such thing as a finished horse
2. Your horse sounds with it
3. Stop acting like you know everything

Not trying to start anything, but this is just giving me the willies! :roll:
    04-05-2008, 05:56 AM
Green Broke
Love a hero.. you do NOT know this horse and I am not saying I know everything! I have had over 8 yrs of exsperience with horses and training them so I do know a good amount of things! So don't say im trying to know everything when ur the one saying Your horse is green deal with it. You don't need to be rude about this. My horse is not completely green just needs a reffresher and needs to relearn a few things.

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