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post #11 of 18 Old 06-13-2012, 10:43 PM
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I never try to hide the halter or rope. If I have it, I want him to know it. Then again, I also NEVER go into the pasture without it, so he doesn't know if it's a "be haltered and brought in for grain" sorta day, a "be haltered and worked" sorta day, or a "be haltered and given a cookie and then set loose again" sorta day. Or even sometimes even just a "Hey, I'm here catching up another horse entirely, Go Away!" sorta day.

Makes it easy when he knows that I always have the halter and he always will have it put on, but that it doesn't always mean things he doesn't like are going to happen.

Sounds like you go out and pat him, yes? Do you got out and feed him or bring him in for food? I would make the halter just part of the routine. If he wants food and/or attention, then getting haltered is part of the package. Now, if he's on 40 acres of grass, he might not care enough to change his behavior.
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post #12 of 18 Old 06-15-2012, 05:55 PM Thread Starter
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I go out there to pet him, catch him, or call him in to feed him. The thing about catching him for feeding is that we don't, we just call him and the others in.

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I have a couple that when on pasture are pains.. I take a piece of baling twine. rub and pet them put the string over the neck then lead them to the halter or lead rope. If they see the halter off they go . They are old and know the tricks.
And will stay just out of hands reach.. so I use the twine. treats only after the halter is on.
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post #14 of 18 Old 06-15-2012, 09:23 PM
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I go out there to pet him, catch him, or call him in to feed him. The thing about catching him for feeding is that we don't, we just call him and the others in.
Exactly- so he knows that halter=work/things he doesn't like, and no halter=good things like food. You need to make halter=good things like food, getting to rest rather than run, and whatever else it is he likes.

If I was retraining a horse like yours, he would have to be haltered before he was allowed to come in to his grain.
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post #15 of 18 Old 06-15-2012, 11:45 PM
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This is one of the very first things I expect from my horse: You WILL come to me in the pasture. He may not run up to me, but he will NOT run away from me. I expect them at the very least to be walking towards me when I call. There are lots of good ways to accomplish this, starting by walking them down if you have to. If you expect them to work honestly with you, you don't try to sneak anything over on them. Would you trust someone who tried to "trick" you? A halter means we're going to be spending some time together and I expect you to come.

IMO, I don't care how valuable your horse is, how beautiful, how much money he's won, or what wonderful foals she throws. If you can't catch your horse, he's worthless.
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post #16 of 18 Old 06-19-2012, 03:05 PM
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My gelding use to be a huge pain in this area too. He made a game of letting me get close to him..and running off. I fixed it though. I had him in a smaller arena...and would go in with his halter in full I approched him, and he ran off...I decided to chase him and throwing the end of my lead rope at him whenever he stopped. It took awhile, but he finally decided he was NOT going to run anymore. I was able to walk right up and halter him. It took a few times doing this. But I made sure whenever he decided to run off, I would keep him going until he was totally done. Taught him that running off was WAY more work than letting me halter him. Now when I walk in to get him, he usually walks up to me first.
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post #17 of 18 Old 06-19-2012, 03:22 PM
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My mare was this way, it kind of cracked me up because I wouldn't say that she put me through it. When she would give in, the way she would do it was sort of like she would stop and turn and look at me with a ok just get this over with look. I always walk up to her from the side and stand about 10 feet away and when she looks at me I start to walk forward, I don't chase either if she walks away I just calmly keep walking her way, I always keep the lead rope halter in my hands. I try to play to their own natural curiosity it kind of gets them all the time. I might go up to another horse and have a pet and that really gets them to come over. I don't want to always have to remember to bring a treat or hide the halter and worry about how to unsneak it out to catch. I had a friend whose horse put up a two hour fight not to be caught, I would never want that.
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post #18 of 18 Old 06-20-2012, 07:51 AM
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I had this problem with my horse and it's still a work in progress unfortunatley I can't do the lead rope round his neck thing as he actually dragged a 6ft guy over once when he tried to help me catch him (and hes only 14.2!) :\ But basically I use food I know it's really bad and they learn to expect it but as long as you teach them manners and respect they shouldn't mug you I went into the field with a whole carrot in my hand the other day and not once did he mug me for it, also phase the treats out once you can catch them. I think also lots of ground work will help you I'd say at the moment he doesn't respect you. This is the problem I had with my horse heres a great list of bonding techniques you can try Training Tips and once you have done those you should do some groundwork, get his feet moving, thats the most important thing to get a horse to respect you because a lead horse will do exactly that they will move herd members where they want them to go. So practice backing up until all you have to do is move into his space and he backs up perfectly every time. Then get him leading at your shoulder only. Never in front never behind and he must also stop at your shoulder, if he doesn't back him up sharply then wait give him a stoke and start again he'll get the idea and once he sees you as leader he probably wont be so difficult to catch :) Also good ground excercises are turning on the front and hindquarters. Hope this helps!
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