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    05-22-2012, 01:50 PM
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Foal
Confidence issues

I bought a horse in febuary with the hopes of riding with my husband. I used to own horses and rode lots as a kid. 3 kids and 10 years later I buy this horse, jump on him and it was going really well until he decided he was was going back to the other horses. I circled him a few times but he decided he was going back and took off at a gallop, I tried sitting back and saying woah as that's how he was trained then pulled back and when he didn't stop I decided to just hold on and he stopped at the corral where the other horses were. This scared me and made me realize I cannot control a horse.

I have rode him once since then with my husband on his horse and he followed perfectly and didn't act up once because hubby's horse was there. I am absolutely terrified now! I am afraid to do anything with the horses now, I keep going over all the different scenarios where I can get hurt. I am just starting to feel comfortable being around them without a fence in between us.

So yesterday I decide I am going to ride. Well my husband decided we were going to practice haltering him and tying him over and over first and he was getting really antsy. Hubby then saddled him and went for a long ride to get his silly's out. Well when he came back he took my 2 year old on for a ride ( oddly I trust this horse with my children) at this point our friend who owns the property decided he was going to start up his cat and backhoe. I took my 2 year old off, then hubby decided he was going to get the buddy saddle so my 7 year old could ride with him.

He ties the horse onto the hitching post and goes into the barn. The horse paws at the ground once then snorts, paws like a mad man, pulls back hard enough to rip the rail off the hitching post and it hits him in the head and stays planted on his neck. Que the horse running away with a rail on it's neck straight into the cat ( thank god it was just warming up). He then flips and hits the barbed wire fence and the rail lands on the other side of the fence. After cutting the lead rope and calming the horse down. I checked him over cleaned up the cuts on his face and he got put back.

I didn't get to ride although I probably would have made a million excuses not to anyways. Now I feel like any progress I was making is gone. I don't know what to do. I keep thinking I have to just do it but then I make excuses or something dumb happens. Anyone ever been in a situation where you were terrified of even being near a horse and finally snap out of it? If so how? I want to be able to ride again and go on trips with my hubby. Any ideas? Sorry this was so long
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    05-22-2012, 03:52 PM
  #2
Foal
Oh my god, the horse ran into a barbed wire fence??? Get the horse sold to somebody experienced and get a beginner horse, or, if you really love this particular horse, pay for professional training or something... I don't know, but right now it sounds like the horse is about ready to kill you your kids or itself.
     
    05-22-2012, 03:59 PM
  #3
Green Broke
Don't know what your husband's horse experience is. That was a lot going on-still not sure which horse pulled back. Barbed Wire? For horses? Sounds like you are lucky that horse wasn't severly injured. It helps if you can at least enter what state you are in, then we have an idea of terrain, climate, rockiness, etc. If you are really scared, don't just be jumping on a horse-especially a 2-yr. Old. Do you have an arena? A Round pen? Are your horses on your property? If not, what is the boarding situation? Knowing what you have to work with would help.
     
    05-22-2012, 04:43 PM
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Foal
I didn't want to ramble on and on so I don't think I made what I was saying very clear so I appologize. First the 2 year old is my daughter not my horse. My horse is a 14 year old saddlebred. He was a showhorse and was supposed to be my dead broke/ no vice/ used for lessons horse. He is very well trained, and my husband has no problems with him at all anymore and I have not ride him without my husband on his horse since. I don't think the business I bought him from was very honest although I did ride him before buying him.

My husbands horse is a very green broke 9 year old Percheron/ quarter horse cross. We are in Alberta Canada. It is not a boarding situation we just have the horses at a friends since we were selling our property. We are now buying a quarter section of land and as soon as we get moved the horses will be home with us which might make this easier. I can't sell the horse right now because he has decided he's terrified of a smaller trailer and would rather cut himself up trying to run away than get in it. Funny how he walked right in there when we bought him. So we have some stuff that needs to be worked on which my husband will be doing. I really do like this horse but I am thinking he's a bit too flighty and I may never trust him.

I was really lucky he never got seriously hurt. He spooked bad but he did turn at the fence but fell into the corner. Which launched the rail over the other side of the fence. I don't like the barbed wire but that's what everyone uses out here and it's not my property, we will just be using straight wire on our fences. Plus we will be building an arena. Right now we put all the horses in the corral at the friends house, catch the horses to be ridden, saddle them up and ride around the pasture or my hubby just goes into the bush on his.

My dad used to train horses so I am also looking at getting him out for weekend to help me.
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    05-22-2012, 04:51 PM
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Foal
After reading what I wrote I realize I sound crazy. I like this horse a lot and I trust my kids and my hubby on him but I am afraid of him because he was buddy once ( he was kept alone before I bought him) and because he spooked when left alone in front of heavy equipment. What I need are ideas on how to get my confidence back. 10 years ago I was fearless. Now I keep thinking the horse might throw me off, or fall on me or stupid things like that. Is it better to ride him in a round pen, then arena, then pasture or better to work with another horse first? This guy has a really quiet horse that I could probably ride if I wanted
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    05-23-2012, 05:01 AM
  #6
Showing
This horse sounds like he needs serious training.. I would be nervous too.

I suggest you give him back to where you bought him, or sell him on. Then if you want to continue with horses, please take lessons so you can work on your confidence.

I would NOT put kids on this horse, no matter how well behaved he seems to be. And I personally wouldn't ride him either.

From what you have told me
- he's impatient
- he spooks easily
- he doesn't tie well
- he blind bolted on you once
- he is not to be ridden by children

Bottom line: he needs a trainer

No offense to your husband or you, but you shouldn't have this horse as he isn't a tie and ride easy going guy.. maybe with more professional training.. but at this moment no way.

You said he gives your hubby no trouble yet he fell apart when your hubby went to go do something.. he pawed, sat back, broke the rail, and took off.. right?

Again.. he needs training. Show horses and lesson horses aren't all good horses. A green horse can be a good horse, a 22 year old could be a naughty horse. It depends on the horse. Also some horses don't do good without being ridden or handled often, they will test you and they will get hot and fired up. That's why some people send in their horses for a tune up. To keep them listening and respectful.

Reading your OP.. it leads me to think he has no confidence and doesn't respect being tied. Maybe he doesn't trust you as a herd leader and tried to escape. I don't know the reasons why as I'm not there and don't know this horse.. but if you're going to keep him, he needs serious ground work and handling. I would not ride this horse until he is a saint on the ground.

And I really think you should get lessons, OP. This horse isn't good for your confidence;
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    05-23-2012, 10:51 AM
  #7
Foal
Thanks sky, I think you hit the nail right on the head with your response. I keep replaying the scenario over and over and of course I feel bad the horse got hurt, so I am finding all the dumb excuses for what happened. When I bought this horse ( I did ride him first but it was rushed which was dumb on my part) I was told he was an easy keeper with no vices. He had a 10 year old girl show him and was very broke. I took that to mean he was safe. But that's not the case he needs someone by his side when he's tied by himself or he starts pawing and dancing around. He's not what I was expecting so Iwas hoping it was us who were at fault. We may be the ones at fault but there are 4 other horses with him that get the same treatment as him and none have any issues like him. I thought I was being a chicken not wanting to ride him, but my gut is telling me not to ride him in the open and I just don't have the nerve to go against my gut.

It sucks because I wanted this horse so bad and I wanted him to be what they said. His hooves need corrective trimming now because the way he walks he wears down one side of his hoof. Didn't know this because his feet were insanely long when we bought him. Was told it was for showing. I don't show so I dunno. Anyways I spent quite a bit on him and I know I won't get that back for him, the horse is terrified of our trailer and won't load ( eyes bulging, broke a lead rope, cut his front leg on the trailer scared) so I think the best I could hope for is a trade... Maybe.
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    05-23-2012, 09:55 PM
  #8
Weanling
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Originally Posted by Newatthis    
Thanks sky, I think you hit the nail right on the head with your response. I keep replaying the scenario over and over
Good grief.... Sounds like they "saw you coming" on this one. I'm sorry to hear that the purchase price was significant. But, sometimes you just have to cut your losses and make a change. If nothing else, it might keep you outta the hospital.

I'm really sorry to hear that it's looking that way but it may be the thing to do.
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    05-23-2012, 10:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Newatthis    
Thanks sky, I think you hit the nail right on the head with your response. I keep replaying the scenario over and over and of course I feel bad the horse got hurt, so I am finding all the dumb excuses for what happened. When I bought this horse ( I did ride him first but it was rushed which was dumb on my part) I was told he was an easy keeper with no vices. He had a 10 year old girl show him and was very broke. I took that to mean he was safe. But that's not the case he needs someone by his side when he's tied by himself or he starts pawing and dancing around. He's not what I was expecting so Iwas hoping it was us who were at fault. We may be the ones at fault but there are 4 other horses with him that get the same treatment as him and none have any issues like him. I thought I was being a chicken not wanting to ride him, but my gut is telling me not to ride him in the open and I just don't have the nerve to go against my gut.

It sucks because I wanted this horse so bad and I wanted him to be what they said. His hooves need corrective trimming now because the way he walks he wears down one side of his hoof. Didn't know this because his feet were insanely long when we bought him. Was told it was for showing. I don't show so I dunno. Anyways I spent quite a bit on him and I know I won't get that back for him, the horse is terrified of our trailer and won't load ( eyes bulging, broke a lead rope, cut his front leg on the trailer scared) so I think the best I could hope for is a trade... Maybe.
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I'm so sorry that you've been taking this out on yourself. This post tells me the people who sold him were not honest with you.. and that is very upsetting. 90% of the time it's the rider (the person) but I think in this case it is the horse and that responsibility falls on the previous owner.

Also do not blame yourself for the horse's poor choices. He decided to pull back and run off, he decided not to listen. But again, he wasn't taught to be patient and trusting and feel safe by the previous owners.

I know you are capable and you can ride, but this horse just doesn't sound as he was advertised. He might be able to become what you so desire, but it's going to take a lot of work and even then your confidence took a beating so it will be some time before you can ride without thinking about all of the things that could go wrong.

I really hope that this works out. Whatever decision that you choose to make. Corrective shoeing.. well some horses need that as they aren't perfect but poor behavior due to lack of training.. that's very wrong.

It's easy to start noticing all of the horse's faults once the big one is unmasked, but even if you fixed all of those faults down to perfect healthy feet and he ties well.. you would still have a very untrained horse left over that is subject to seriously hurt himself or you.

You were taken advantage of which really sucks. Those kinds of people don't have any business being in the horse world.

Do what you think is best, whether that be keep or sell or train or trade or donate.

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    05-23-2012, 11:18 PM
  #10
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OP.

I am a decent rider and I'd be very scared to mount such a horse. Don't feel bad that you are "lacking confidence". It's called "having a sense of self preservation".

The horse has some real issues;

Won't tie, is buddy sour and bolts. This is not the horse for you to ride. Either your husband needs to really work with it, or you hire a trainer, or trade the horse for a calmer, older one.

Tying him to the rail of the hitching post is probably not a good idea. If he pulls back, you need to put a really strong bolt into the post, not the rail, and tie there. But, you'll need to have that trainer work with the hrose so that he WILL tie safely, and maybe the use of a blocker tie ring will help. I"ll try to find a picture of this gizmo. You'd connect it to the BIG bolt that's sunk into a very sturdy post, never a rail.

So, just in general, don't feel pressured to do something that the voice in your head is screaming at you to not do. You are mother to three kids and not really horse savvy yet, so it's best to resist any pressure to "just do it" . Let them think what they will.

Hope you can find a good trainer or trade the hrose for a more suitable one.
     

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