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    02-17-2008, 04:20 PM
  #1
Foal
Criticized-tips?

Yay! A new riding forum! Thanks mods for making it.

Anyway, when I take riding lessons at this one stable, they criticize a lot. When I ride, sometimes the horse just stops or something. They think I am riding the horse wrong, but even when I do exactly what they tell me the horse is just stubborn!(btw, I ride two horses. One who is slower than a snail and one faster than a cheetah)I want some tips to make them stop just stoping in the middle of the arena.

I also need help, for the fast one, to SLOW DOWN.

Here is how I handle the slow one:

I'll kick, cluck, kiss, or do all I can to get him to trot. Whips are not allowed on him, or any horses there unless it's for a special reason. Or spurs, I think. So I'll talk to him, squeeze, or do anything I can for him trot. Rough handle is also not allowed, unless they are acting up badly.

Fast one:

He has the fastet trot. I would shake this off if this was English, but it's Western and I either bump up and down or make my thighs so sore I can't walk. =( So when they tell me to check him back, I usually pull gently on the reins. But, he stops. (Or walks) I would tighten up on the reins, but that we are not allowed to do that or hold the reins up. Gurr! How do I handle them both?

Thanks!
     
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    02-17-2008, 06:17 PM
  #2
Showing
I'm not sure if there is a way to make the slow horse go faster. If its a lesson horse its probably had everything done to it and its just decided it has one speed and that's it. You might try driving him with your body. Meaning speed up your rocking motion in the saddle. When you are riding normally keeping your pelvis rocking at the same speed as the horse is going he will stay at that speed. If you increase the rocking faster than he is going he should speed up. I'm really bad at explaing this stuff, hope that makes sense.
On a faster horse I was always taught to sit the trot like you had a $100 bill behind your backside and you are to try to not lose it. In that position you will deepen your seat and loosen up your thighs. Again hope that makes sense.
I want to add I've never had lessons so the above may be totally wrong Also when I ask my horse to go forward I push my hands forward and start the forward rocking with my body. She a good horse though and usually just goes with a kiss. :)
     
    02-17-2008, 08:59 PM
  #3
Foal
Thanks for the tips, I will most certainly try that out. :)

I do sit the trot - but they seem to insist he slow down to not bump into the other horses, so I need to figure out how exactly to do that. I love your tip for the slow one - if I ride him tomorrow I'll let you know how it goes.
     
    02-17-2008, 09:21 PM
  #4
Showing
Vida had the right idea for the slow horse, and actually the same goes for the fast horse, just the opposite way around. When you're riding, you should be able to control the horse (speed as well as turning) without using your hands at all, so really deepen your seat and think slow with your body and aids. Do NOT rely on your hands to slow the horse down. Another thing is to circle the horse whenever he gets too fast, and keep circling until he drops down to the speed you want.
I'll post more later... my brain's not with me right now..
     
    02-17-2008, 09:41 PM
  #5
Weanling
Re: Criticized-tips?

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Originally Posted by horseylover1_1
...when they tell me to check him back, I usually pull gently on the reins. But, he stops. (Or walks)...
How much do you pull on the reins? A steady pull? A slight juggle of the reins? A quick jerk?

I'm sure as a lesson horse, he's learned that any rein pressure = a downward transition. So, as strange as it sounds for a fast horse, I would recommend keeping your leg on him while asking him to slow down. When you ask him to slow (with reins) do you feel him slowly transitioning down to a walk? If so, right at this moment, give a little pressure with your legs. Or, does he immediately screech to a halt? If so, then use the leg pressure at the same time as the reining back. In both cases, when you do pull with the reins, give the reins right back to him. Kind of a "hey, slow down, but keep going too!"

Circling often works wonders too.

And hey, those sore thighs you've been having! Good for you! You're building muscle!!
     
    02-17-2008, 10:01 PM
  #6
Foal
Re: Criticized-tips?

Quote:
Originally Posted by Equina
Quote:
Originally Posted by horseylover1_1
...when they tell me to check him back, I usually pull gently on the reins. But, he stops. (Or walks)...
How much do you pull on the reins? A steady pull? A slight juggle of the reins? A quick jerk?
I would say steady pull or slight juggle, depending on how fast he is really going. I can not circle, because the barn is 1. Very small 2. It is forbidden 3. If I did, it can mess up the trotting of the other horses. We can circle, but only if instructed, And usually, that is only when we get close. =( I have to say, they have the cheapest insurance or something. But they have lots of young children, and you know.
     
    02-17-2008, 10:26 PM
  #7
Weanling
Forbidden to circle? Has your instructor specifically said this??

If a rider cannot control a horse, then they should be in private or lunge line lessons. If a rider can control a horse, then they would be able to successfully turn a circle and should be allowed to do so!

One time in a lesson (of 8 riders) we were practicing flying lead changes and all 8 of us rode on a large figure-8 simultaneously. It was so much fun because we had to be totally aware of each other to avoid collisions in the center. We all had control of our horses and it was fun to keep having to adjust tempo and speed.

I think I'm off on a tangent, but I was so surprised to hear that directing your horse on a circle was "forbidden!" Maybe if the instructors allowed the riders to control their own horses then the horse would listen when its rider asked it to slow down or speed up.

Anyways, lets see how things go in your lesson tomorrow! Looking forward to hearing who you ride and how you do!
     
    02-17-2008, 10:33 PM
  #8
Showing
Eek.. no steady pull! That starts a tug-of-war game with your horse, and your horse will ALWAYS win. Try a check-and-give motion with one rein - don't see-saw with both hands! Checking and giving is a good way to keep your horse's attention on you and bring him back down as well. Just make sure you keep leg on to keep him moving forwards instead of dropping down to another gait.

That is so odd about the circling thing. Very very strange. I couldn't imagine NOT circling! How do you supple your horse and ask him to bend around your leg? How do you teach him to do a good 10 or 20 m circle? I don't get it! I'm trying so hard to wrap my head around it, but that's WEIRD! Even when I was young I was taught to be able to circle and work around other riders... especially for showing, you HAVE to be able to work around other riders that aren't all going the same direction or speed...What do you do to prepare for the hassles of shows? This is blowing my mind!!
     
    02-17-2008, 10:37 PM
  #9
Showing
Quote:
Originally Posted by Equina
One time in a lesson (of 8 riders) we were practicing flying lead changes and all 8 of us rode on a large figure-8 simultaneously. It was so much fun because we had to be totally aware of each other to avoid collisions in the center. We all had control of our horses and it was fun to keep having to adjust tempo and speed.
In my lessons (back when I took lessons *sigh* I miss them so much!) we used to do these types of things a lot, because we had to prepare our horses for the warmup ring at shows where horses will be coming at us from all directions... and it was fun! We used to do the figure-8 lead change thing as well, among other things
     
    02-17-2008, 10:38 PM
  #10
Foal
Yeah... they don't want ppl who can control their horse to make the others (kids) stumble. *rolls eyes* I mean, the barn has little place to avoid any collisions, but IDK. When I get a horse of my own (my first horse, squee!) I probably won't ride there anymore. But, umm yeah. Any movements I do have to be invisible.
     

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