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        05-24-2011, 06:43 AM
      #11
    Showing
    Wow, DSJ! Do they really say so?! Of course helmet will NOT make you a good rider, but using it as an argument to discourage people (especially beginners)... I just have no words how dumb one can be to say that... Then because bridle and saddle doesn't make us good riders either lets all ride bridleless and bareback!
         
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        05-24-2011, 08:08 AM
      #12
    Weanling
    Eurgh, Don't they realise kids are listening to them? Young, impressionable, innocent kids. Like most of you, I am pro-choice. My personal choice is that I wear a helmet EVERYtime I ride. Let me tell you there have been a couple of times I have been pretty glad of it too!

    I remember hacking out with my mum once, we were both wearing helmets. We were trotting along the road, and mid-post one of my mum's stirrup leathers came off the saddle, bless her she lost balance and hit the tarmac, pretty much head-first. She was concussed, and that was with a helmet on! I think without it, she might have died. Honestly.

    If I ever had kids and they wanted to ride, my kids would not get on a horse without a helmet until they are 18. THEN they can do as they wish.

    I really don't have a problem with anyone choosing not to wear a helmet. But I really don't think people should be out there discouraging it. That's so irresponsble as role-models. Others look up to these people, IMO kids particularly are not always capable of making a fully-informed desicion. If these people don't want to wear helmets, fine to them. But I feel they should be promoting safety to all their followers. Not encouraging them to put themselves at risk.

    Just my thoughts.
         
        05-24-2011, 08:18 AM
      #13
    Weanling
    I am pro choice here, but I will say that, at least in my state, kids are required to wear them anyway right? I am 18 so I don't wear one, or worry about getting caught without one. I cannot find a comfortable one that doesn't make me sweat to death or make me look like alien-head lol. But my mares are so good. The only time I wear one is when I'm working with Kip- a VERY rowdy horse with absolutely no breaks at a boarding facility I work at.
         
        05-24-2011, 08:30 AM
      #14
    Weanling
    In the UK childre under 14 are required to wear a helmet by law, however I have seen cases where this is ignored or not enforced. Also, I believe that may be only on the roads as it is in the highway code? I'm not sure. It also states: "These requirements do not apply to a child who is a follower of the Sikh religion while wearing a turban."

    As far as i'm aware helmets are not required for children by law in EVERY US state, although this is the case in New York and Florida, at least. (those are the only ones i'm sure of)
         
        05-24-2011, 08:34 AM
      #15
    Weanling
    I am pro choice when it comes to helmet use for adults. For kids, I think we need to protect them as best we can.
    I wear a helmet when doing speed events or when riding young horses. I don't always wear one otherwise, but I would never discourage the use.
    As public figures, people like RG & Parelli need to just come out and say that they don't like wearing a helmet, so they don't. They don't need to be making excuses for not wearing one or implying that they aren't worth wearing.
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        05-24-2011, 08:36 AM
      #16
    Showing
    I am also pro-choice on wearing a helmet. I haven't worn one in years and only then did so for one year after they changed the laws about youth being required to wear one. Prior to that when I rode english, I wore a dress cap. The laws have since been changed that a helmet is required for anyone under 18 while riding, at least at 4-H events and on their grounds. My daughter & husband both wear one every time they ride, it's a requirement for my daughter and my hubby chooses to wear one. I require anyone regardless of age that rides here on their horse or mine to wear one, not only lesson students but clients who also have their horses in for training. What they do when they go home is their business, but in my barn if they want to ride they wear one. (unless they want to pay for my liability policy, haven't had any takers on that one yet....)

    I just can't believe any responsible adult, especially one that labels themselves a trainer to suggest not wearing one. I've also seen the personal attacks put out by RG. The other thing about him that got me was a video & article of his I had emailed to me a long time ago about why women aren't successful with horses, that really got my blood boiling. Sad to say that I think he probably was/is a fairly competent horseman, but his extreme views & antics make him read idiot to me.....
         
        05-24-2011, 08:49 AM
      #17
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    Originally Posted by MHFoundation Quarters    
    I just can't believe any responsible adult, especially one that labels themselves a trainer to suggest not wearing one.
    I totally agree.
    And to make it sound like if you are a real horseman you do not need one just makes it even worse.
         
        05-24-2011, 09:36 AM
      #18
    Foal
    I have a good friend that would have been dead last summer if she had not been wearing one when her horse reared and came over backwards. She showed me the mangled remains of her helmet and I became a believer. I even went out and bought a new helmet as the one I was using for my lessons was old and had a dent or two in it. When I started giving lessons this year I made sure to buy a helmet in each size. You can't ride here if you don't wear one.
         
        05-24-2011, 09:55 AM
      #19
    Weanling
    I'm all for helmets when you're on the back of a horse. I used to ride at a barn which required every single person ON SITE to wear a helmet. They might not be near a horse, but they had to have a helmet on. I will always wear a helmet while riding a horse, but I refuse to wear one if I'm just grooming or mucking a stall.
         
        05-24-2011, 10:05 AM
      #20
    Trained
    For safety statistics involving wearing/not wearing helmets, I posted a thread a while back with some studies:

    Helmets and injuries - some studies (LONG!)

    Anyone riding on my property wears a helmet, and my daughter doesn't get a choice either. Anywhere else, I'm happy to let folks decide for themselves.
         

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