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        09-26-2013, 06:25 PM
    I know how you fel! I recently switched my crazy barrel horse (and my barrel racing self) to English, and good lord above was it an eye opener! Combined with the fact that my horse was abused by his previous owners, very nervous and ungodly forward gave me the task. Switch instructors ASAP, this woman is obviously trying to use yo to get her name on the show circuit.
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        09-26-2013, 06:46 PM
    If your instructor isn't listening to you, her client, then there is a problem.

    There is a difference between being pushed past your boundaries to become more confident, to being pushed past your boundaries so far past what you actually want to do, to where it causes you to lose confidence and clam up.

    If she won't listen, then inform her you will be seeking an instructor that does.
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        09-26-2013, 07:03 PM
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    Originally Posted by VACowgirl    
    Thank you so much for the feedback, franknbeans! What ticks me off is that I told her I wasn't comfortable with this particular horse after a few times on him and she kept saying, "Well, I wouldn't put you on a dangerous horse." And of course, the next lesson, he bolts and leaves me on the ground. Had a sore shoulder for days.
    The switch from Western to English has been and eye-opener to say the least! Your "postage stamp" description was spot on There's no longer a saddle horn to grab on to! I'm kind expecting to fall MORE in English than I did in Western.

    I do want to show, but definitely not by November! If I do, it'll be on the flat and not on this speed demon horse! I needed a reminder to go with my instinct, so I really appreciate it :)
    I actually had a much better seat when I rode English all the time. They do make a leather strap that goes on the front of the saddle to grab if needed. To me it sounds as if she is using you to train this particular horse that has some issues. I would stick to my guns and go else where if she insists you ride this horse.
        09-26-2013, 07:04 PM
    I'll echo the need for you to dump your current trainer, and find one with YOUR interests, not HERS in mind. Keep in mind that the sooner you start showing, the sooner she will start making more money off of you. A good trainer should be more concerned about what you want- they will help you towards your goal of showing, but they won't push you towards it when you shouldn't be pushed. And they DEFINITELY won't put you on horses that are a danger to you. There's a line between pushing you out of your comfort zone to build your confidence and have you test yourself and being inconsiderate and dangerous, and she has obviously crossed that. I'm sure as a horse person you and your trainer understand that falls happen, but that doesn't mean that you should tempt fate with horses that you aren't ready for in a discipline and saddle that is completely foreign to you.

    What I think that you need to do is find yourself a new barn and a new instructor. In your search visit all of the options in your area that meet your criteria- price, distance, discipline, etc. Talk to all of the possible trainers, visit the facility and horses, talk to the trainer's current students, and even see if you can watch a bit of a lesson. You'll be able to see what you like and what you don't like, weigh your options, and pick a place. If that one doesn't work out, try out your second choice. Of course, this only really works if there are multiple options around you. It's kind of slim pickings around here unfortunately
        09-26-2013, 08:09 PM
    My bf gave me a 'lesson' on his 27 year old tb I decided to never have him give me a lesson again. The horse had more go then whoa and I ALMOST got hurt. If I was you I would get a different instructor asap! Take the advice of your gut and the others before you GET hurt! Its easier to learn right the safe way then to have a crash course and end up in a wheelchair.
        09-26-2013, 08:53 PM
    OK here's my story. I actually wanted to learn to jump. I too had been riding for years western and mostly self taught. The instructor I used first was also pushing to the extreme limits of my confidence and ability in an english saddle. We were jumping on the 3rd lesson. She had all of her students signed up for a small show in a few weeks. By the 7th lesson, I had an accident. The horse and I parted ways at the jump. He went around and I hit the jump standard with my head. I was laid for months with a bad concussion and bruised shoulder so bad the dr thought I might need surgery. I never went back to that instructor.

    I found a really good instructor years later that stressed good flat work first. She would not jump a new student until they were good at w/t/c and guiding the horse thru obstacles. It was a minimum of 9-12 months before she would let you even try a crossbar. (I found I really didn't like jumping and tried dressage intead.)

    In hind sight, I should have left after the 3rd lesson. I was not ready and neither was most of the class. She was pushing to hard and wasn't taking the safety of her students in to consideration. Trust your instincts. If they are telling you this is not right for you, then it's time to find a new instructor.
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        09-26-2013, 09:11 PM
    That's a great article Jinx, hit the nail on the head! OP, are you feeling nervous and not having fun in your lessons (sounds like it), if so, switch trainers! Even though my instructor worked my butt off, I have never felt unsafe or hadn't not loved the lesson, afterwards mostly, during, nah I am sweating too much! We do this and spend money this sport because we enjoy it, not to feel in danger or nervous.
        09-27-2013, 04:10 AM
    Lol, I'm pretty much in agreement with everyone else.

    It could be though that she DOES see potential in you. So she's going. Hmm.. this can make me look very good.. >:] Probably without quite meaning too.. (mabye? Lol) but that's what it sounds like to me. I would flat out tell her, I do not want to show this year at ALL.

    It will (hopefully) get her to back off and you can always 100% change your mind if you do decide to show this year. But I'm thinking that without a deadline she should lighten up. And if she keeps pushing for that show, just be firm and stick to your guns. C:
        09-27-2013, 03:31 PM
    Seems like you should ask the trainer for a trained horse so you can become a better english rider/jumper

    Work on YOU learning the proper rein cues and THEN put you on that forward horse so you know what your hands are doing and tweak it for the forward horse

    The girl I took lessons from put me on 2 different horses depending on what we were doing because each horse had it's strengths and weaknesses for a beginner and would behave differently in different situations

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