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post #141 of 161 Old 02-28-2012, 10:02 AM
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I understand that. I would think that if you are a good shot, it would take one or two, if you are not, it might take many. Not something you can say.....take (this many). It takes what it takes.
with the way adrenalin works, with an aggressive dog, even if I'm sure that I got 2-3 good shots.. i'd shoot til it didn't move anymore. Worst thing in the world.. an aggressive and wounded animal.
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post #142 of 161 Old 02-28-2012, 10:30 AM
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A squirt gun filled with house hold ammonia works pretty good too.

A shot to the eyes and nose and a dog will never chase a horse again, and will usually run an hide when they see one.
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post #143 of 161 Old 03-03-2012, 11:36 PM
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My trouble is, that my Teddy wants to kill any dog he sees, and we usually have an argument over him NOT doing that. The other horse I ride, Kumar, and I have had a real tussle over not allowing him to kill a dog. He didn't care what I was saying with my seat, legs or reins. He wanted to eat the dog!
But there has been a lot of good avice on this post. I will look for a nice paint-gun pistol, or a BB pistol. But first, I have to look up the carry laws for my state (MN). Thanks to you all, for sharing stories and advice.

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post #144 of 161 Old 03-04-2012, 09:07 AM
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My trouble is, that my Teddy wants to kill any dog he sees, and we usually have an argument over him NOT doing that. The other horse I ride, Kumar, and I have had a real tussle over not allowing him to kill a dog. He didn't care what I was saying with my seat, legs or reins. He wanted to eat the dog!
But there has been a lot of good avice on this post. I will look for a nice paint-gun pistol, or a BB pistol. But first, I have to look up the carry laws for my state (MN). Thanks to you all, for sharing stories and advice.
In that case, it sounds like you got the aggressive dog defense covered well.

As far as handgun laws in MN, this place is great to start your research as it summarizes every state and provides links to the actual statutes: Handgunlaw.us
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post #145 of 161 Old 03-04-2012, 10:19 AM
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MN is a shall issue law, one word of caution, a BB pistol is legally a gun when you carry it on your person, so would come under the same restrictions as an actual firearm.
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post #146 of 161 Old 03-04-2012, 11:44 AM
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I haven't encountered aggressive dogs but I have rode with one that was running in and out and Biscuit was charging her which was making me nervous as all get out. It is just that dog that Biscuit wants to charge. She belongs to a friend so shooting her is not an option - she is just being a dog - not aggressive.

Dogs can be freaking scary if they are on the attack or defending their territory. We came upon 2 barking labs out in the woods where we ride one day and I rode at a trot towards them using my dad's voice when he yelled at the hunting dogs "you better get on up there" LOL I had to laugh at myself....dogs left so I must have channeled my dad pretty well.

I don't carry a gun or any weapon really but if I did ride where I knew there were aggressive dogs I would carry a dressage whip or bull whip and get good with it. I love dogs - all dogs - but if it is between me and Biscuit and a dog that is being an idiot - oh well, if Biscuit makes dog mush so be it. Hopefully that will NEVER happen.

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post #147 of 161 Old 03-04-2012, 11:53 AM
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I agree with Gunslinger. A squirt gun with household ammonia will do the job. No permit needed to carry it. No law broken for squirting it in city limits. Other than the howl of the dog squirted, Nobody will know you even used it. Unlike the discharge of a firearm where some concerned mother may complained that you endangered her kids by discharging a firearm.

A can of Wasp spray will do pretty much the same thing if you have room to carry it.
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post #148 of 161 Old 03-04-2012, 04:46 PM
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No law broken for squirting it in city limits........ some concerned mother may complained that you endangered her kids by discharging a firearm.
Ordinances against the discharge of firearms within city limits do not apply to self defense.

What some "concerned" mother thinks is not really high on my list of priorities.
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post #149 of 161 Old 03-05-2012, 02:48 AM
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Dogs bark at people, they bark at horses, they might even come close to them and its not great but I don't think its a reason to shoot them. I don't know how many dogs I have had run up to me and then proceed to lick me. I would go to lengthy means to protect myself and my horse from a vicious dog, but I think many of them aren't. And the way so many people talk on this thread it sounds like they are willing to shoot a dog willy-nilly, just because it happens to be there, or to teach an owner a lesson or because there is some vague possibility that its a threat. And I think that is terrible.

Yes, they shouldn't be off the lead, or they should be better trained, or both. And perhaps the owners should be more responsible. But it is so terrible to kill a dog just because its there, especially when you don't know the circumstances. Perhaps it escaped its yard, or slipped its leash, or is just having a terrible day. Maybe it's eight year old owner accidentally let it go. People love their dogs. They love them so much, they are their companions, and to many people are closer than family. To just shoot one when it wasn't necessary is an awful thing to do. To deliberately cause a person so much pain and suffering when maybe, yes, they made a mistake.

I know so many more people who are scared of horses, and if your horse was loose and, chasing a dog maybe, and someone shot it, how would you feel? I know if a horse cantered up to some friends of mine, loose, they would be terrified, probably much more scared than a dog because many people are terrified of horses. And if everyone had the attitude that people in this thread have, they'd shoot the horse. When maybe the fence came down in a storm, or someone fell off. Has it got to do with training and control? Not all the time.

Yes, protect yourself and your horse, but please consider before you make such a callous decision. On a side not, I wouldn't be taking a horse out to a public area if he'd throw a rider and bolt because of a dog. To me that is not a well trained horse, and could do traffic damage, or injure people. Until a dog made physical contact with the horses I have ridden out, they probably would have been fine.
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post #150 of 161 Old 03-05-2012, 04:05 AM
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Dogs bark at people, they bark at horses, they might even come close to them and its not great but I don't think its a reason to shoot them...........blah blah blah blah
You honestly did not grasp what has been said here. At all....
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