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        07-18-2010, 08:23 AM
    Dilemma about

    I have a huge dilemma.

    A little bit about my horse, His name is Gunther and he's a 6y/o halter bred QH. He is a very quick learner and loves to work. The dilemma is Gunther hates to have contact with his face, and I would like to take dressage lessons.

    When Gunther first went into training he would always throw his head and toss it when you used direct rein. For the longest time we thought it was because of his teeth. We have them regularly checked out and done, that's not the problem.

    When Gunther went into training the second time we did natural horsemanship and used very little rein contact, he's a super neck reiner. He loved it, and will ride for hours and hours without tossing his head. The only time I would use direct rein was to correct him.

    Now I want to do Dressage, because it will help us with everything but he HATES when I'm in his face. I have very quiet hands. I don't know what the problem is. D;
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        07-18-2010, 08:53 AM
    What kind of bit are you riding him in?
        07-19-2010, 06:35 AM
    I ride him with a Myler bit, and before that a plain D ring snaffle. It's not the bit.
        07-19-2010, 08:04 AM
    Pardon my lack of knowledge on Dressage but could you use a bitless bridle?
        07-19-2010, 09:17 AM
    I can sympathize. My mare is a real bit** when/if you get on her mouth. There's nothing wrong with her dentition, she just hates contact on her mouth. However - riding her in a hackamore turns her into a totally different horse that is a dream to ride - as long as you stay off the reins. Stopping and guidance don't bother her, but constant pressure even in the hackamore will land you on the ground in a hurry!
        07-19-2010, 09:24 AM
    Originally Posted by Chella    
    Pardon my lack of knowledge on Dressage but could you use a bitless bridle?
    No. In order to show dressage, a bit must be used.

    If the OP only wants to use dressage as a training tool, then she can use a bitless. If she wants to show, the horse has to be bitted.
        07-19-2010, 09:55 AM
    Originally Posted by White Foot    
    I ride him with a Myler bit, and before that a plain D ring snaffle. It's not the bit.
    It can be the bit though. Every horse has a different happy bit. Have you tried a french link or something along those lines?

    I assume you have had his teeth done?

    Have you consulted with your dressage instructor?
        07-20-2010, 06:12 AM
    Chella, I've seen the "natural" dressage where they ride with a hackamore.

    Dee, Gunther doesn't mind the bit, he just hates to have contact with his face in general. If I ride him in a hackamore, which I do frequently, I still have to ride him with very loose reins. So people who get on that are used to controlling their horse 99% by the horses face, are screwed.

    Alwaysbehind, we have messed around with alot of other bits to see what is best, and this is the one he's most happy with. Yes, he has his teeth done regularly.
        07-20-2010, 07:12 AM
    Maybe his previous owner did not have such light hands. A horse can build up bone spur type things on their bars, so no matter what bit he uses would be uncomfortable.? Could you do ground work like teaching him to drive from the ground and get him used to the pressure with out being on him?
    Its unfortunate that horses "have" to be bitted or shod to show.
        07-20-2010, 08:23 AM
    Did you try to keep contact with his mouth from the ground? It's strange enough you can't keep contact with the hackamore either. May I ask who and how started him? My paint used to hate the contact, but because she wasn't trained to accept it. As we work on it she's getting better. If he's really bad about his head, may be dressage is just not for him. You said he's a good reiner. You can try other stuff too like WP or cow work.

    If you want to try dressage in general you can always just take couple lessons on dressage horse.

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