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post #11 of 29 Old 10-07-2012, 10:13 PM
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I don't remember ensuring my Ricci had jaws of steel. Things are gonna get awful unpleasant when I snap her lower jaw off. Le sigh. I'll pay better attention to my purchases next time.
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post #12 of 29 Old 10-07-2012, 10:17 PM
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I don't remember ensuring my Ricci had jaws of steel. Things are gonna get awful unpleasant when I snap her lower jaw off. Le sigh. I'll pay better attention to my purchases next time.
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Very poor buying skills on your behalf *shakes head and sighs* That is the first thing I check in my new horses - the best way to determine a steel jaw vs a foam jaw, is to put a leather strap in their mouth, where the bit sits, and tie as many bricks as you can to the end of it. If their jaw snaps off, you know the horse is a dud.

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I was going to put my two cents in, but it seems that everyone has already covered all the nonsense in that video. The CGI stuff had me chuckling. I also loved how everyone who was testing the pressure of the bit was holding the reins upside down. Yes, I am sure they all have a great deal of experience with horses and riding since they had some kid put on the outfit.
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post #14 of 29 Old 10-07-2012, 10:59 PM
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i think this is a bit to the extreme... i know i dont ride my horses like that, and i bit should never be that loose in a horses mouth, you have it tight enough in the first place so its not bouncing around everywheres... i see where they are coming from as there is some stupid people out there, but you dont see this often...
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Very poor buying skills on your behalf *shakes head and sighs* That is the first thing I check in my new horses - the best way to determine a steel jaw vs a foam jaw, is to put a leather strap in their mouth, where the bit sits, and tie as many bricks as you can to the end of it. If their jaw snaps off, you know the horse is a dud.
Great, thanks for the tips! I'll make sure to be a better buyer next time!
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post #16 of 29 Old 10-08-2012, 02:03 AM
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Ricci, clearly you haven't attended Anky's clinic on purchasing a dressage horse...

Oops, did I cross a line there?
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post #17 of 29 Old 10-08-2012, 01:34 PM
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I am SCARILY cautious when it comes to the softness of my hands. I personally ride with light contact and my trainer's horse is very aware of the SLIGHTEST hand movement on my part (she lets me know with a light "yank" back on the bit if anything I do inadvertently bonks her in the wee-est unpleasant manner in the mouth)...

I'm thrilled she does that...she's taught me to go from being merely soft-handed to being aware of the fact that each time I shorten a rein, turn a wrist, etc...she FEELS IT in her mouth and so my movements are very careful, always NECESSARY and never excessive and if I do a gentle, fluid half-check with the reins to get her thinking about what WE'RE doing, it's NEVER sudden. Its a warned movement wherein often I can move my 4th finger or pinky 1/4 inch and she's already on the same page.

I ride in a French link Dee ring snaffle....she's so sensitive (& my lower level riding/no showing in my future ever) means that spurs/crop aren't required. These tools can be highly effective and necessary and I MOST OFTEN SEE THEM USED CORRECTLY and I'm certainly NOT AGAINST THEIR USE. However at my basic English pleasure with hopes to progress to jumping, for pleasure and not to show, those items will lino ever be a part of my NECESSARY tools...

Sorry to ramble. Folks should (G-d willing) REALLY TAKE A GIANT STEP BACK IF A-N-Y-T-H-I-N-G they're doing resembles any of that hard-handed riding in the video...I'd die of shame and humiliation if I ever treated ANY HORSE'S MOUTH/psyche that way...)
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post #18 of 29 Old 10-08-2012, 02:40 PM
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I can't believe I just wasted eight and a half minutes of my life watching that. No scientific ANYTHING in there. As always, ridiculous.
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post #19 of 29 Old 10-08-2012, 02:52 PM
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Does it change my mind about what? That Nevzorov is as crazy as a bedbug? Nope, didn't do anything except cement my belief in that!
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post #20 of 29 Old 10-08-2012, 03:01 PM
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YES! This does change how I think! It makes me realize how important it is to clearly explain things to others and inform them of appropriate use of aids and how they can be mis-used. Because ignorance breeds this sort of extreme rubbish.
CAN a bit do that sort of harm? Well, sure, if you are riding like a barbarian. That is why education is so vital.
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