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post #21 of 29 Old 10-08-2012, 02:22 PM
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Oh that's it! I am all changed in my way of thinking now. I am going to throw away all my bits & other riding gear and turn my horses loose to be free as nature intended as not to cause the red heat pain in them!
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post #22 of 29 Old 10-12-2012, 06:43 AM
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Nevzorov having an ax to grind? Wow, who knew!
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post #23 of 29 Old 10-12-2012, 11:53 AM
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It's also wonderful that this guy deletes any comments to the video that aren't something along the lines of "Oh poor horses! Bits are so evil they should be outlawed!" *insert eye roll here*
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Well, I already felt really bad for the horses with riders like this. Does it make me want to not use a bit? no... It might change someones mind who thought that riding with hard hands and throwing your body weight against the reins was ok. I agree to with this video to some extent. I agree that all bits can be used the worng way and that many "top" riders can get overly agressive. I don't agree that all forms of bit usage and riding are hurful to a horse, though.

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post #25 of 29 Old 10-12-2012, 08:23 PM
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*Sarcastic* Hey guys, did you sign the petition against ALL equestrian sports in the description!? Better get on that, wouldn't want horses to have to work or anything like that...
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post #26 of 29 Old 10-14-2012, 11:14 AM
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I just watched this video. I wonder, does this change how you think or how you will do things, or do you just think it is bull?

What are your thoughts?
I don't see "bad bits".... I see "bad riders". None of those people would EVER be allowed on any of my horses, I don't care who they are or what kind of credentials they have. Period.

A lot of the snatching on the reins that I saw in that video appeared to have anger/aggravation/frustration behind it and if that's the case, then the rider needs to dismount and go cool off for a while. I don't care what the venue nor how much money is riding on that particular event. No amount of money or fame justifies mistreatment of a horse. Never.

I agree that those are apparently extreme cases and I definitely agree that the producer has an agenda, but the events depicted did happen....

The "snatching" is particularly bad, in my opinion. A controlled "pull" that allows a horse time to yield to the pressure when it reaches a sufficient level is a lot different from the abrupt yanking in that video. If the rider thinks he/she has to snatch the reins that hard/abruptly in order to get the horse's attention, then it's time for training, not yanking.

For cryin out loud, a bit is for communication, not pain.
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post #27 of 29 Old 10-14-2012, 11:36 AM
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Sorry for including the video link in the above quote... When I realized that it was in there and tried to take it out the system had already locked me out of editing the post.... Can't imagine why there is a timeout on editing my own post... Oh well...

Also, I'm not saying that the video is right on target. The mechanical model stuff is very flawed and the CG stuff is only showing what they want it to show. But there is some really bad riding going on in those clips...
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post #28 of 29 Old 10-15-2012, 07:55 PM
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serious competitive riders + hot head horses is pretty much just a set up for harsh hands.

the video doesn't turn me off to using a bit becuase at this point my horse needs it. at 120pounds vs probably 1000pounds, a slight bit of mechanical leverage for everyone's safety really isn't a bad thing when used properly.
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post #29 of 29 Old 07-01-2013, 03:40 AM
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The whole *jaws of steel thing* = A new meaning to the term hard mouthed?
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