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post #41 of 57 Old 01-06-2013, 03:29 PM
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I'd say he's on the forehand in the video you posted. To help my horse use his hindquarters more, I do lots of hill trotting, and in the arena I do lots of transitions, half-halts and circles. Another thing I do (especially at the canter) is make myself sit deeper, in that I will literally hold my butt into the saddle if I feel he is too unbalanced in order to slow him down and squeeze him through with my legs. Try working at the trot before you try to collect his canter.

Otherwise, he is a pretty boy. I like the idea of him for hunter.
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post #42 of 57 Old 01-11-2013, 10:57 AM
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Any horse can have potential for lower levels as long as he is sound. Try looking at videos of what you want to train him for, and mirror that. That's how I learn. Plus a good instructor is always a plus
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post #43 of 57 Old 01-11-2013, 06:40 PM Thread Starter
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Thanks everybody!
More advice is welcome!
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He's lovely, I think he has a ton of potential. Yes, I think he's on the forehand, but you can work with that: lots of transitions, serpentines, leg-yielding, to help get him more "up." I love his easy-going manner! But in his case, I wouldn't make things easy! No more two-circles the same size in a row; mix it up a lot and get him thinking, don't let him know what's coming, get him really listening to you.
The other day I did a lot more mixing it up with cantering. I did tighter turns, cantering, walk for a couple strides, canter again...just trying to get him quicker. He did really well!
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I agree with what's been said about him being bred as a WP horse. For him to be competitive in the HUS at the QH level he would need different confirmation. Not to be rude, but even most local AQHA shows are very competitive. If you want to show at that level I suggest a QH trainer. I think he would do very well at the open local or 4h level.

I would love to see videos of him jogging and loping around as a western horse. He looks like he would be cute western.

I like him so so much better the second direction. Something you might want to try is not to push with your seat. If you watch you can see you are "humping" the saddle with your lower body. Try to sit back, relax, and move up and down with the motion of the horse. Horse's don't move front to back, the move up and down.

He is on the forehand and is very "in your hands" in the video. Its not an "impulsion" issue that you have, you have plenty of forward. Almost too much forward. He needs more self-carriage and a more consistent topline head set. I would really focus on hip moving especially at the lope. To get him to sit back on his hock and push.

He is a cute mover tho! Like I said I would love to see him western
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So to get him back over his hindquarters I need to sit back and relax more and do more transitions, direction changes...right? I really want to try this stuff next time I ride...I would love for him to have more self carriage. So if there's anything else I can do please tell me!
.Delete.-I've been really wanting to get a jogging video. He can't lope like a WP horse, but he can jog! As soon as I can I'll get one, which may be a while because it's way too wet here to ride!
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With him using himself properly I bet he could lope! Maybe not as slow and as pretty as some other WP horses but he sure would look cute doing it. Most of the time if a horse can jog they can lope
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Will me sitting back and deep help him come over his hindquarters?
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Your seat alone will not make a huge difference in his body positioning.

If you are serious about getting him on his hocks, you should start schooling your side-passes and haunches-ins.

When I have a horse that's heavy on the front, my goal at the lope is to get the horse off the inside shoulder, bend the core, usually by side-passing at the lope. Then I might continue on at the counter canter, straightening the horse out and pushing up the hind end. Then I'll do another side pass on the diagonal to get back onto the correct lead, and then once the shoulder is up, I'll ask for the hindquarters to come up in the haunches-in at the lope. Drop the reins and bam, you've got a little rocking horse.

Of course, that's the end goal. Everything starts out at the walk. But I can tell you, it takes more than a seat position to get that good canter.


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I know it takes more than seat position, just wondering if that would be of some help.
So counter cantering and lateral movement is what you're suggesting?
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