engage yo hind end foo! - The Horse Forum

 
LinkBack Thread Tools
post #1 of 7 Old 01-31-2010, 11:58 PM Thread Starter
Foal
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Maryland
Posts: 157
• Horses: 2
Question engage yo hind end foo!

Okay well, basically, Frazier no likey moving his butt. So my post and my question are simple: how do I get my horseh to get his hind end from dragging behind?

gogirl46 - We are lipstick and cleats, we are concrete and grace.
Feature Presentation (Frazier) - 11 year old AQHA gelding
Terminator (Termy, the Termite) - 18 year old AQHA mare
gogirl46 is offline  
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
post #2 of 7 Old 02-01-2010, 04:28 AM
Trained
 
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Australia
Posts: 8,175
• Horses: 3
Does he react immediately when you put your leg on? If he doesn't walk off straight away, that's your problem, he's just ignorant to your leg.
I'd carry a dressage whip, and when you ask him to move off with leg and he doesn't react immediately, give him a tap behind your leg to wake him up. It won't take long until he realises it's much easier to walk off with the leg than wait for a whip.
Once you've go your go button down pat, you want to do a million transitions. Get him trotting, and if he's not active, put your leg on, if he doesn't go, give him a flick behind your leg. Get him hooning. Doesn't matter where his head is, you just want him to GO from the leg.

When he reacts to the leg in all paces, you can start fine tuning the forward movement, but for now, you want him to leap away from the leg. Little bugger, don't let him get away with being a lazy sod!
Kayty is offline  
post #3 of 7 Old 02-01-2010, 07:20 AM Thread Starter
Foal
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Maryland
Posts: 157
• Horses: 2
He moves off of my leg pretty well but I have to encourage him to keep going and one day, I had him trucking at the trot and when he cantered, he moved!

But I do carry a crop and I give him a good ole thwack when he's not listening.

The problem is that he moves, just not his butt.

gogirl46 - We are lipstick and cleats, we are concrete and grace.
Feature Presentation (Frazier) - 11 year old AQHA gelding
Terminator (Termy, the Termite) - 18 year old AQHA mare
gogirl46 is offline  
post #4 of 7 Old 02-01-2010, 12:51 PM
Yearling
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: NJ
Posts: 852
• Horses: 3
The point is not that 'he moves'.

He needs to be moving, WITH PURPOSE, EVERYTIME you use your leg. If you ask him to walk, it's not good enough for him to just move off the leg and plod along. You want him to move off your leg, immediately, like he's walking to his feed bucket!

When a horse has impulsion--immediate (but calm) push from behind--the back legs WILL be engaged.

Just moving isn't good enough. Having to push him along, isn't good enough. Having him take a few walking steps before you ask him to trot isn't good enough.

Kayty gave excellent advice.

Dressage in Jeans - My blog with dressage tips for happy, relaxed horses, specifically for those who ride dressage in western saddles, no saddles, cowboy boots, or jeans. ;) Also now with cute pygmy goat pictures! :P
mayfieldk is offline  
post #5 of 7 Old 02-04-2010, 12:28 PM
Trained
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Ashland, OR
Posts: 8,170
• Horses: 1
Kep your legs on him. I agree with Kayty. Lots of transitions. Trot to lope, lope to trot. Beat him with the crop if he doesn't respond. Well, abuse is bad but there ain't no harm in giving him a good whack to get him moving. I had the beat Jester's butt multiple times to get him moving. Lazy rat he was, but he got better after awhile ^^

Pssh.I didn't pick up the wrong lead
It's called a counter canter...
...A very advanced maneuver.
SorrelHorse is offline  
post #6 of 7 Old 02-04-2010, 01:27 PM Thread Starter
Foal
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Maryland
Posts: 157
• Horses: 2
Alright well I can get him to move at the posting trot but its when we do a sitting trot he just gives up and drags his behind. So is there anything I can do with the sitting trot or do I just worry about the posting trot?

gogirl46 - We are lipstick and cleats, we are concrete and grace.
Feature Presentation (Frazier) - 11 year old AQHA gelding
Terminator (Termy, the Termite) - 18 year old AQHA mare
gogirl46 is offline  
post #7 of 7 Old 02-04-2010, 03:45 PM
Yearling
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: NJ
Posts: 852
• Horses: 3
Worry about the posting trot. Most likely, when you sit you inhibit his movement (by holding with your legs, not sitting quietly, holding on the reins, etc.), and he's not giving his back yet to make sitting easy for you.

Work at the posting trot, get him moving. (DON'T think this means 'rush'. Just purposeful.) When you come down from a canter to a trot, don't just let him 'trickle' into a trot and plod along. You want a nice moving canter directly into a nice moving trot/walk/ etc.

Dressage in Jeans - My blog with dressage tips for happy, relaxed horses, specifically for those who ride dressage in western saddles, no saddles, cowboy boots, or jeans. ;) Also now with cute pygmy goat pictures! :P
mayfieldk is offline  
Reply

Quick Reply
Message:
Options

Register Now



In order to be able to post messages on the The Horse Forum forums, you must first register.

Already have a Horse Forum account?
Members are allowed only one account per person at the Horse Forum, so if you've made an account here in the past you'll need to continue using that account. Please do not create a new account or you may lose access to the Horse Forum. If you need help recovering your existing account, please Contact Us. We'll be glad to help!

New to the Horse Forum?
Please choose a username you will be satisfied with using for the duration of your membership at the Horse Forum. We do not change members' usernames upon request because that would make it difficult for everyone to keep track of who is who on the forum. For that reason, please do not incorporate your horse's name into your username so that you are not stuck with a username related to a horse you may no longer have some day, or use any other username you may no longer identify with or care for in the future.



User Name:
Password
Please enter a password for your user account. Note that passwords are case-sensitive.

Password:


Confirm Password:
Email Address
Please enter a valid email address for yourself.

Email Address:
OR

Log-in









Human Verification

In order to verify that you are a human and not a spam bot, please enter the answer into the following box below based on the instructions contained in the graphic.


Old Thread Warning
This thread is more than 90 days old. When a thread is this old, it is often better to start a new thread rather than post to it. However, If you feel you have something of value to add to this particular thread, you can do so by checking the box below before submitting your post.

Thread Tools
Show Printable Version Show Printable Version
Email this Page Email this Page



Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
resting hind leg(s) ffdfrontman Draft Horses 8 11-13-2009 09:58 PM
Using his hind? IheartPheobe Dressage 14 06-03-2009 09:35 PM
Right hind .. I don't know what to do ... help! kchfuller Horse Health 20 04-05-2009 08:57 PM
Using the hind end sunners English Riding 9 06-17-2008 01:19 AM
Hind End Engagement JumpinHigher Horse Training 6 03-21-2007 07:27 AM

Posting Rules  
You may post new threads
You may post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On

 
For the best viewing experience please update your browser to Google Chrome