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post #1 of 22 Old 08-14-2011, 09:02 PM Thread Starter
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Eventing, Dressage, Cross Country..etc

So I was just wondering, if you can practice dressage in a normal saddle. Not to where it's show worthy, but just working on doing some of the moves like extending on the trot and canter, shortening on the trot and canter etc. And also I don't have a dressage saddle atm but am looking for one :) and this also ties into the eventing info below..

As for cross country. My horse is very picky with the jumps at my barn. He can do jumps BEAUTIFULLY if you face him towards the barn. But if you jump him the opposite way then right when he lands he does a quick turn, which always knocks me off balance. I've never fallen off that way but I did when we were cantering a few months ago when he was REAL sour about turning away from the barn. So my main question about this one is, 1) how can you condition your horse to not be a finicky jumper and/or not refusing (he sometimes refuses the jumps if they don't face the barn) and 2) how can you make the jumps in your ring look cross country-ish..we don't have a xc course so no luck there.

And lastly about the eventing. Eventing is 3 things, dressage, xc, and show jumping right? Well can you take your horse that isn't very good at one of them (mine is dressage) and still go to have fun.. Or will people be like omg this horse sucks please go away lol.

This is probably really conjumbled and everything because I've stopped like 3 times typing it. But all I'm looking for is some help with this. Thanks so much :)

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yes you can do dressage in a jumping saddle at the lower levels.

your jumping problems dont seem to be jumping problems as much as barn sour problems.

i like using barrels, hay bales, tires, and overturned water troughs as jumps. i have also leaned pallets up against a vertical to make it like a coop.

if your dressage is poor you probably wont win, but that doesnt mean you cant have fun and learn something. do you have a trainer ?

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yes you can do dressage in a jumping saddle at the lower levels.

your jumping problems dont seem to be jumping problems as much as barn sour problems.

i like using barrels, hay bales, tires, and overturned water troughs as jumps. i have also leaned pallets up against a vertical to make it like a coop.

if your dressage is poor you probably wont win, but that doesnt mean you cant have fun and learn something. do you have a trainer ?
Haha yeah we'd be very low since I've never done dressage..ever. But this is for the future, like next year haha.

I've done barrels with him and he does them fine, i'll try and work with him with the other jumps. And I've done a pallet, well it was a bridge lol and he jumped it by accident so I think we'll have some success with that :)

And I don't have a trainer right now, but I will be getting one by next month. She works at my barn so I know her pretty well
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So I was just wondering, if you can practice dressage in a normal saddle. Not to where it's show worthy, but just working on doing some of the moves like extending on the trot and canter, shortening on the trot and canter etc. And also I don't have a dressage saddle atm but am looking for one :) and this also ties into the eventing info below..
Absolutely!! I school dressage in a jumping saddle all the time. The only setback is that a jumping saddle doesn't encourage the best leg position when the stirrup leathers are the longer length best for dressage.

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As for cross country. My horse is very picky with the jumps at my barn. He can do jumps BEAUTIFULLY if you face him towards the barn. But if you jump him the opposite way then right when he lands he does a quick turn, which always knocks me off balance. I've never fallen off that way but I did when we were cantering a few months ago when he was REAL sour about turning away from the barn. So my main question about this one is, 1) how can you condition your horse to not be a finicky jumper and/or not refusing (he sometimes refuses the jumps if they don't face the barn) and 2) how can you make the jumps in your ring look cross country-ish..we don't have a xc course so no luck there.
That really is not an uncommon problem. Horses always prefer to be in a "herd" when they are tense. If the herd is at the barn....

When I jump away from the barn, I think much more aggressively forward, if the horse is barn sour. I will hold my hands in a wide position (base wide) on either side of the neck. This helps channel the horse forward, making it a bit harder to turn. Think to look up and towards the distance to encourage him to canter on. Praise him for keeping straight.If he turns, DO NOT CIRCLE HIM. Make him turn back around....for instance, If he turns to the right after the jump, MAKE him turn back left and go back away from the barn. Circling sends the message that the turn was "kinda" OK.

Just make yourself doubly aggressive toward the jumps away from the barn.

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And lastly about the eventing. Eventing is 3 things, dressage, xc, and show jumping right? Well can you take your horse that isn't very good at one of them (mine is dressage) and still go to have fun.. Or will people be like omg this horse sucks please go away lol.
Why not? If people think you aren't taking the dressage phase seriously, so what? Do what you can, as well as you can...and have fun. As you go along, you will improve, as you learn.

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This is probably really conjumbled and everything because I've stopped like 3 times typing it. But all I'm looking for is some help with this. Thanks so much :)
Not confusing at all.

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thanks allison :) that was really helpful. And when me and my friend are just playing around at the barn I've had my stirrups all the way down to pretend I was riding western (we both used to ride hardcore western lol) so what would be the correct leg to fake my horse into getting all dressagy? Anddd also lol, how can I get him to get into some extension and shortening with his strides?

And are there any other maneuvers I should start teaching Cowboy now for dressage?
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ANDD jeez lol this is a lot of stuff to ask! When you do eventing, do you have to have a dressage saddle? I'm looking to buy one soon anyways but I was jw :)
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Devyn, you can start shoulder in, leg yielding, free walk, medium walk, turn on the forehand. Try doing some center line work.
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Devyn, you can start shoulder in, leg yielding, free walk, medium walk, turn on the forehand. Try doing some center line work.
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Jordyn you know you're gonna have to tell me what all that is, and how to get Cowboy to do it lol. So next time we ride him, we're going dressage lol. We'll have to get Cowboy to talk to Kin for some advice lol
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Lol, Kin just wants cowboys baby maker...
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