Ya I know that they also break Saddlebred tails as well, just like some people put heavy chains, or a special solution on the fetlocks of saddelbreds and walkers, that abraid their skin to get them to pick their feet up higher. Personally speaking I'm not all gung ho all dogs should have their ears and tails done, but unless they do it after a few months of age, I don't think that it is that cruel if it is done right. When docking tails, its done within the first 3 days of birth, and is not a big procedure, and ears are supposed to be done within a few months of birth. I do know someone though who's dad had her dogs tail docked (the dog was at least a year old), because she would knock over his beer mug on the table by the couch. Because of the dogs age, it was a big procedure for the dog, cruel for the dog to all of a sudden be without a tail. It is generally better to have a tail though, as that is how you can tell how a dog is feeling, and its important to be able to read their body language.