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post #41 of 50 Old 07-19-2009, 12:22 PM
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Ive had pups at 1 day docked and dewclaws removed. I'll never do it again.

I guess I don't have a problem with dewclaw removal even though it is very painful, but it serves an actual purpose, not just to make the dog look a certain way. Dewclaws are usually removed to prevent them from being ripped off when the dog gets older. Especially if it is a hunting dog running through brush. In non-hunting dogs it can be important if the breed or line is known for having dewclaws that protrude. Having a dewclaw ripped off is incredibly painful for an older dog, so I guess I look at having them removed at a very young age (1-3 days) as the lesser of two evils. But again I have no paitence with tail docking, ear cropping, or any of the other purely cosmetic procedures that we inflict upon animals.
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post #42 of 50 Old 07-19-2009, 01:45 PM
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I think my horse had his tail broken but he can still use it but it always stays to one side. When I got him I just thought he just held his tail weird. But the more I saw him use it I thought for shure it has been broken. They were going to have him trained for reaining but it did not go so good durring the training so the stoped. The same people who broke him used a thin tristed bit and pulled realy hard on his toung and split it. People are crazy.
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It's amazing, isn't it, the things we come up with to use on and do to the animals we "love"?
I don't believe that people who use things like this really love horses. They are simply a means to an end, the end being a blue ribbon. It really makes me sick that those people can't just love horses for being what they are. Instead, they have to make all these changes that make them more beautiful in our eyes, even if it is not best for the horse.

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post #44 of 50 Old 07-19-2009, 08:54 PM
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I don't believe that people who use things like this really love horses. They are simply a means to an end, the end being a blue ribbon. It really makes me sick that those people can't just love horses for being what they are. Instead, they have to make all these changes that make them more beautiful in our eyes, even if it is not best for the horse.
Oh, I agree completely
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I don't believe that people who use things like this really love horses. They are simply a means to an end, the end being a blue ribbon. It really makes me sick that those people can't just love horses for being what they are. Instead, they have to make all these changes that make them more beautiful in our eyes, even if it is not best for the horse.
I think that's kind of what her point was :)

I agree with both of you. Very sad :(

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post #46 of 50 Old 07-20-2009, 11:23 AM
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I once rode a horse who had once had an ear tag. He hadn't been on a range, there weren't millions of other animals, the old owner just thought it could be like a dog collar in case he got lost. He thought halters with tags were distasteful... the poor boy had a huge hole in his ear. That couldn't have been a fun ear piercing experience. We used to joke that if we showed him we'd name him something piratey and put an earring in it to dress it up.
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post #47 of 50 Old 07-20-2009, 01:59 PM
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Gingering? Wow. So, if the swab isn't accurate, what do they do? Sniff test?
For those found guilty of it, couldn't they ginger the offending people for perspective? Just a thought.

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I guess I don't have a problem with dewclaw removal even though it is very painful, but it serves an actual purpose, not just to make the dog look a certain way. Dewclaws are usually removed to prevent them from being ripped off when the dog gets older. Especially if it is a hunting dog running through brush. In non-hunting dogs it can be important if the breed or line is known for having dewclaws that protrude. Having a dewclaw ripped off is incredibly painful for an older dog, so I guess I look at having them removed at a very young age (1-3 days) as the lesser of two evils. But again I have no paitence with tail docking, ear cropping, or any of the other purely cosmetic procedures that we inflict upon animals.

Sorry, I should have been more clear. The tails I would not do again. The dewclaws yes. I have seen a dog with a ripped dewclaw, not fun.
The tails and dewclaws healed quickly, within a coupe of days they barely had scabs. But the intial pain, not worth it.

Oh, and if anyone is interested, the vet tech used heavy duty dog nail clippers. Then she put a cream on the end.
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I don't believe that people who use things like this really love horses. They are simply a means to an end, the end being a blue ribbon. It really makes me sick that those people can't just love horses for being what they are. Instead, they have to make all these changes that make them more beautiful in our eyes, even if it is not best for the horse.
I agree. And to me, a horse swishing its tail around (like they do while grazing) is really pretty. I love to see the long hair flying in the wind like that.

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post #50 of 50 Old 07-20-2009, 05:54 PM
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Sorry, I should have been more clear. The tails I would not do again. The dewclaws yes. I have seen a dog with a ripped dewclaw, not fun.
The tails and dewclaws healed quickly, within a coupe of days they barely had scabs. But the intial pain, not worth it.

Oh, and if anyone is interested, the vet tech used heavy duty dog nail clippers. Then she put a cream on the end.
Sorry, I've had a couple of people get a little crabby about dewclaws before.
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