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post #11 of 36 Old 04-16-2010, 10:07 PM
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Act like an adult and remember that when you are on her property she is responsible for every horse and person that is there. It is not a good idea to let horses touch nosesfor a couple of reasons. One, you are passing and recieving every airborne illness either horse has come in contact with. Two, it often results in squeeling, striking and other bad behavior from one or both of the horses. If you keep your horse from behaving badly then you will not have to worry about her hurting your poor little horsie.

She is simply trying to help improve your horse handling and barn ettiquette. She may not be explaining herself as well as you would like her to but she is not being as rude as I would be.

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post #12 of 36 Old 04-17-2010, 01:52 AM
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Eh. I personally wouldn't give a crap if she got offended. I can see why you might want to handle it like an adult and in a mature manor, but hon, if that doesn't work don't be afraid to get on her about it.

I've worked at Toni's my entire life, since I was five and helping ix feeds and just learning to ride. Well, about two years ago there was an idiot trainer she hired who played off really great at first and it turns out, he was abusive. I actually trusted him and handed Jester off to him once because I had to go take care of the evening feeds and he promised to warm him up for me.

After I fed everyone I went to get Jester for our workout and I found the ******* with a lunge whip, hitting my horse with it. Naturally Jester didn't do anything, just cringed and took it. But ****, I was pissed and I got after him with that whip and cussed him off my horse.

I don't think Jester got but one hit with that whip, so he wasn't traumatized by it or anything but it was traumatizing for me and ever since then I've been freaked out about any movement of aggression (outside the normal fir training) towards my horses.

Don't hesitate. Just let her know exactly what you think when you think it. Yeah, I suppose I'm a little over the top nowadays but I wouldn't tolerate that behavior. If she can act that way in public, what does she do behind closed doors?

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post #13 of 36 Old 04-17-2010, 02:14 AM
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She may have been trying to help you out with him, but there are much better ways to help you than hitting your horse, especially when you are right there and could correct a behavior she didn't like if she but asked you to not do something, or to do something different. I would let her know that it is unacceptable that she hit or otherwise correct your horse, unless he is seriously endangering her life, or someone else's life, and to please tell you, or ask you, or point out to you that something may need to be corrected, and you will then correct your horse as you see fit, as he is your horse, not hers.
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post #14 of 36 Old 04-17-2010, 03:07 AM
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I'd be taking my horse to a different barn or having a serious talk with this lady. You may be on her property but your horse is YOUR responsibility and if anyone hit my horse I would be moving as fast as possible. Just because she did that to him when she had him does not give her the right to do that to him now. She could have simply asked you not to let him touch noses with other horses.

I would just tell her that since he is your horse now to let you handle what he does. Act mature about it and if she acts childish and throws a fit I'd say move to a new barn if you can.

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post #15 of 36 Old 04-17-2010, 08:54 AM
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While she might have been trying to correct your horse for bad behavior, at the same time, she should have told you why the issue needed correcting and allowed you to correct the behavior yourself - he's YOUR horse now, and it's YOUR responsibility.

I will slap an errant nose when it's needed. But IMO, a horse should never, EVER be smacked when there's a rider on it's back, and you don't have the right to smack other people's horses. That's probably one of the first things I was ever taught, when I was a little kid learning about horses myself!


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post #16 of 36 Old 04-17-2010, 09:16 AM Thread Starter
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I do not board at her barn. I brought my horse to her barn to try out a saddle.

He actually hasn't been her horse for quite a while: she sold him to a mutual friend a few years ago (I got him from the mutual friend). So she hasn't been around him for two or three years. I feels very much as if there's an element of spite in this: he used to be her main horse and she probably wishes she hadn't sold him.

She has made it clear she's not giving up her God-given right to hit this horse, and the only way to stop her would be to get into a major fight.

Since I don't feel like the fight, I guess I just won't ride with her.

Thanks to everyone who posted!
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post #17 of 36 Old 04-17-2010, 09:26 AM
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since she used to own him and since you are apparently in her barn. I'd move him. I don't think she'll change her ways.

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post #18 of 36 Old 04-17-2010, 01:53 PM
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I agree with farmpony84. You should move him. Techniqually, it IS her barn, therefore, she has to do what she feels is safe. Reguardless, I do agree that her hitting him for the reasons you posted are just silly, but there's really not much you can say since it is her property, her barn etc. Well, I mean, you can say what you want but it really won't matter. Since I have my own barn, no body has the right to hit my horses what so ever. We don't let people board or anything, it's just our horses, but since we run a theraputic riding program, the volunteers are always coming to ride. If I saw any of them hitting my horses or anything of the sort, I'd make them get off and leave in a heartbeat. I don't have to get too stern around them because I already present myself in a stern, aggressive, and assertive manner. I notice they are constantly looking over at me to see if I notice that they've done something wrong or have messed something up. I look over and I'm like, "Yea, I saw that." lol

So aside from that, you should really move him.

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post #19 of 36 Old 04-18-2010, 06:51 AM
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Just because he USED to be her horse, does not mean she has the same power over him as when she owned him. Next time she hits him POLITELY ask her to stop. If she does it again, don't be afraid to be rude. But, as a rule of thumb, the first time you should always be polite. She might not know that it bothers you.
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post #20 of 36 Old 04-24-2010, 02:57 AM
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Wow, yea if I were you it would be time to either have a talk with her or just move your horse, when I first got Onyx I had him boarded at a barn, he was deathly afraid of people from being abused and had been badly ear twitched, when I had him at that barn the BO tried to help me with him and told me he wanted to tie Onyx down so that we could mess with his ears and that eventually he would just be okay with it, I just told him no thank you, after a month or two I got Onyx to a pretty good place on my own, one day I let Onyx out in the pasture and was running around taking pictures of him, I think the BO thought I was trying to catch him and thought he was running away, he grabbed his lead rope and went and caught him and started hitting him with the lead rode and pulling hard on the halter and omg I flipped out, i seriously don't think I have even been so angry, I called up my friend the same day and had her come pick him up and never looked back, it took me almost 6 months to get him to the point that you could raise your hand without him trying to run away... Thankfully over a year since then Onyx is great, but truthfully all it takes sometimes is one 30 sec indecent to really mess up a horse. I'm not saying your horse is like this but if she keeps treating him the way she does it could be bad, if I were you really I would just leave, I can't stand to be around people who will hit a horse for every little thing, I do believe some horses need a stong hand if there really doing something bad such as biting, or trying to knock you down, other wise I think a good "knock it off" works just fine.
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