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post #11 of 17 Old 07-14-2013, 07:51 PM
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When it's life or death, it's just that. you do what you think is best. If her heart wasn't beating after some time with only breaths, then I guess you have no choice. The most recent CPR info I heard says to do breaths only, but who knows. I think that's because few people can do the heart compressions well enough to actually make a difference. I remember them telling us (years ago at CPR class) that it CAN break the sternum, but, again, it's life or death.
it could very well be that one friend saved the life of the other.

I hope you three have many more good years together . Such friendships are rare and precious beyond measure.
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post #12 of 17 Old 07-14-2013, 08:35 PM Thread Starter
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That's what we were told, you can't do CPR right without breaking something...but, it's upsetting any way you look at it.

I'm in tears right now for the first time since it happend, your words about how precious our friendship is really spoke to me. I knew it but to see it in writing makes it real. Thanks.
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post #13 of 17 Old 07-15-2013, 08:34 AM
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Oh Sharond, you all did your best and because of everyone's efforts your friend is alive. It was a terrible event but it happened and her best friends were with her - and you all saved her as best you could. I don't think she could have asked for more.

Caroline, you sound like you know a lot about CPR. I'm wondering if this isn't something we should all know, particularly in this sport.

Sharond, I want you to know that because of what you wrote and the sadness and passion and honesty, I'm going to go out of my way to take another CPR course and update my skills (haven't done one in about twenty years). I'm thinking maybe this skill is just as important as any, especially on the trail.

And I'm with you on basics - cell phones, eyeglasses and (for me) bottled water.

This thread is very enlightening and I think important. Thank you for sharing.

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post #14 of 17 Old 07-15-2013, 09:22 AM
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You might want to go to your friendly fire station and ask them to recommend a counselor for you. They have a Chaplain and other First Responders on staff who help counsel survivors of just such traumas.

What you are experiencing is very common BUT you need to know that without an appropriate outlet to talk about what you experienced, the mind tends to replay it like a video, each replay getting more gruesome. Each replay stimulates emotional responses that affect your whole body, and you will quickly develop new ways of responding to triggers that are not healthy (fear, paralysis, anxiety, loss of freedom, loss of joy, etc..)

These counselors are trained and very experienced in helping you come to a healthy understanding of this life-changing event. Left untreated it could affect not only your relationship with horses, but can spill over into other areas of your life and become quite crippling.

Good luck and gentle hugs to you~
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A fellow who instructs CPR told me that in order to get the heart beating, sometimes it takes the force of breaking the sternum. The sternum will heal. Get on your horse and ride it, even if only at the walk. Take 3 deep breaths to calm the jitters. Your friend wasn't paying attention to her horse as there are indicators, warnings, prior to the horse bucking. She didn't pick up on them and diffuse them. I suspect she was busy chatting.
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Thanks, I will take the advice given. It is much appreciated and I know that what Boo Walker said is true, I am experiencing some, if not much of what she describes.

Actually, none of us were talking, we were trotting and she sat back, asked for a canter and he tossed her. She was trying out a new saddle, so maybe that was a distraction but I tend to think she was really concentration on how things felt. Hard to say, but even if she was concentrating on him, the force with which he bucked, he would have dislodged most anyone. He knows how to do it and drop a shoulder to get people unseated. It's not the first time, or second, or third...
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Thanks, I will take the advice given. It is much appreciated and I know that what Boo Walker said is true, I am experiencing some, if not much of what she describes.

Actually, none of us were talking, we were trotting and she sat back, asked for a canter and he tossed her. She was trying out a new saddle, so maybe that was a distraction but I tend to think she was really concentration on how things felt. Hard to say, but even if she was concentrating on him, the force with which he bucked, he would have dislodged most anyone. He knows how to do it and drop a shoulder to get people unseated. It's not the first time, or second, or third...
oh no. I'm not going to ask why. None of us are perfect or logical and we all have reasons for not dealing with the stuff we should deal with.

I know if your friend is coming out of the pain meds, and feeling the pain of healing she's already kicking herself and asking why she got on a horse that unseats riders. I'm not an experienced rider but I know there are times for professionals to come in and retrain. I think this horse needs training. Because if not, the horse is at risk him or herself.

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