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    07-21-2011, 07:42 PM
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Foal
Exclamation First Ever Riding Accident And It wasn't a Sissy one...

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Four days ago, My 64 yr old friend/trainer came over to give me a lesson. She's been giving me a lesson in exchange for two days of work for the past few weeks. I mostly have been walk, trot, and doing some obstical work to get me to be able to push him away from me at w/t, go over poles, fool with gates, back up, ride with my legs and not my hands, and posture work.

Well for a fun activity at the end of each lesson, I would w/t the cones which are in a triangle. I am basically barel racing turtle style with cones. She stopped me when I came back from a trotting race after my lesson and said " Hey! Ever cantered before? No? Go in head I'll watch you. "

Now...Earlier that day My usual horse, Yoda, who has a weight problem was coughing alot. So I pulled in Jeb our Morgan mutt who has more go than mister slower than H$ll yodda and tacked him up. Jeb's a fun horse to ride. He has a fast walk, fluid trot, but has a problem with not wanting to do something or being fearful over something. Also...His saddle is weird. Both saddles we have for the boys are treeless and fit great but jebs slips when you put weight into the stirrup even when the girth is extremely tight. I'm a big girl so I also have a factor to it.

Yet that day was amazing! I did walk/trot, picked up stuff, opened gates, you name it. The canter is where everything went down hill. Remember when I told you his saddle slips when I hop in?...Yup you guessed it. First cone a canter my foot hits the bright yellow object. Jeb, like a dumb ass, shys left, I go right. I don't remember much other than holding on for dear life as this 1000 lb animal is running with me between him and the fence hanging on part in a crooked saddle with my foot stuck. Life seriously flashed in front of my eyes.

What my friend told me afterward is that He spooked, obviously, at the cone and than freaked when me and the saddle fell to the side the cone had been at. It was like I was ridding the horse sideways holding onto his mane as he galloped around the arena with a few all four feet in the air bucks to make things more interesting. I ended up somehow pulling my fat but back up...saddle and all Super Human strength from adrenaline?!?!?!

I didn't fall off or get hurt but my arms and ankle hurt like heck the next morning. I really don't know how I didn't die or fall off. I can't even do a pull up yet I could pull myself up like that on a out of control galloping horse? Wth? Lol

So someone explain to me How did I not fall off? I must have some angels watching me or maybe their my ferret boys monster and dingo watching over their mummy? ^.^
     
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    07-21-2011, 07:49 PM
  #2
Green Broke
Wow, I'm glad you didn't take a fall in that situation, it could have been so much worse. I definitely think adrenaline had everything to do with you pulling yourself back up. But I'd say it's time to get a saddle fitter out to see if you can't figure out a better solution to Jeb's saddle slipping issues. A lot of Morgan types I've known have had mutton withers, and are harder to fit, but having a saddle that slips around, even when the girth is tight, can be a very dangerous thing, as you found out. Safer to not use a saddle at all than one that doesn't fit right. Good luck with your next canter being better and safer!
     
    07-21-2011, 08:45 PM
  #3
Super Moderator
My question is what did you pull on? Mane?

IN reality, it might have been safer to let go and tumble to the ground before much speed was gained. Sometimes it's safer to bail, and if you are hanging on the side, bail before you get bashed into something.
     
    07-21-2011, 08:57 PM
  #4
Started
I think she couldn't bail because her foot was stuck? Maybe I read it wrong. I've take the option to bail over fall many times. Sometimes though those things catch you off guard. Like my recent spook with Legacy.

There was an idiot horse running around during a show in his paddock. I came around the corner, warming up for dressage in a prep arena. Crazy horse bucks and kicks the fence. Legacy freaks, locks her neck and before I know it we're jumping/going through a 3 foot fence sideways. I flew and was dragged a good 3 feet. Popped back up onto my toes and let her run around me in circles until she had calmed down. I said more than a few choice words to the grounds owners about that horse being a danger. She wasn't the first to get spooked by his idiocy that day. I had a nice fist size welt on my left butt cheek but other than that made it out ok. That was something that happened so fast though I didn't get the choice to bail before I was thrown. Needless to say I pulled her from the show and demanded a refund. There is no way I'm doing a dressage and jump day with him being a dummy less than 15 feet away.
Glad nothing bad came out of this OP. I agree though, get a saddle fitter and see if that problem can be resolved. Also you didn't mention if you mount up from the ground or from a block. If it's from the ground maybe have someone hold the other stirrup to compensate for one sided weight as you get on or find a chair or mounting block to get on. I'm small and my saddles slide when I mount up from the ground too so I use a block or someone holds the other side.
     
    07-21-2011, 09:24 PM
  #5
Foal
I mount from a block with counter preasure. ^.^ but yeah my roomies going to check out the saddle and see what's up. Also..jeb is kind of low on the withers but not by much. He acually is built really well and has iron hooves.

Oh and my right foot went through the stirup when I felt myself going sideways. Don't know how though because propper footage is something I've a natural at.

I pulled myself up with his crappy mane. Its thin but I had a death grip on everything and anything I could grab. In my mind...falling was death and I have a life to live!

But all together I rode out today and cantered on jeb in the english saddle. I've always felt safer in english than those bulky old western get ups.
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    07-22-2011, 08:46 AM
  #6
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Green Broke
Bless your heart. I am glad you were not hurt because it could have been ugly. Angels held you up....thank God for angels.
     
    07-25-2011, 07:00 PM
  #7
Foal
Thank goodness you're alright!

Could a breast collar help prevent slipping in the future? My lesson guy is sort of bad with his saddle slipping back, and we are contemplating putting a breast collar on him so that we don't have a similar issue with him.
     
    07-25-2011, 07:08 PM
  #8
Green Broke
^^ this a breast collar could have helped I ride with one on every horse no matter what especially the little arabs I ride.
Very glad you weren't seriously hurt though!!
     
    07-26-2011, 09:18 AM
  #9
Green Broke
A breastcollar can definitely help with a saddle that slides back but it isn't going to fix one that twists sideways. Then all you'll get is a horse that panics more because now they have something tightening up around their neck or legs as well as a rider sliding off the side.
     
    07-26-2011, 10:26 AM
  #10
Green Broke
I blame this incident on the saddle. That is the same reason I sold my flex-tree, well, that and I had to have back shots because it caused me so much back pain. But I had an incident nearly identical to what you described with my flex-tree.

I was riding out on the dirt road because it was winter and it was too sloppy to ride in the forest and I don't have an arena. Anyway, water was trickling through a culvert and it spooked my horse. He spun and I went over sideways because the saddle slipped. I came off and looked up to see him bucking like a bronc. Then he took off and was impossible to catch for about 20 minutes. I was very grateful I fell clear and didn't get hung up in a stirrup, because he was in a panic.

I've ridden out a gazillion spooks before and the saddle never rolled with me. With the flex-tree it did. That is why I consider it a flaw with flex-tree and treeless saddles.

Breast collars will not keep the saddle from going sideways but it WILL keep the saddle from completely rolling under the horse. I had another incident one time that I think the breast collar saved my life because it kept me from rolling completely under the horse.

Anyway, I 2nd, 3rd, or 4th that the saddle doesn't fit the horse and should not have rolled like that even when he spooked.

I ride western all the time (in a normal, wooden tree) and the horse can spook and the saddle doesn't roll. I love the IDEA of a flex-tree or treeless, but in actuality I think that is one of their major weaknesses, not being secure on the horse. That is also why I think bareback pads with stirrups are majorly dangerous.

I'm so glad you came away basically unharmed! Ride in a normal saddle tree (English or western) from now on, particularly on a rolly polly horse.
     

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