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post #1 of 6 Old 06-02-2012, 06:20 PM Thread Starter
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Full Lease Questions


I'd like some input on some questions I have about a lease I'm getting into to - I'm not sure if I should be happy or not.

I've started a full lease on a nice H/J who is owned by the trainer/stable owner. We agreed on a price. It included "full training" - but the owner says the horse needs to be trained by stable staff 2x weekly, thus I can only ride him 4x weekly (which is only 1 day more than a half lease). I said I would allow this for the first month - but we are now into the second month and the stable owner is still insisting this continue. She says it's to my benefit that the horse be trained - but I somehow can't get over being irritated that I'm paying money for the owner of the horse to train/ride her own horse 2 days a week.

Problem is - the owner wanted about $200-$300 more monthly than I'm paying and she feels she's giving me a really good bargain. My problem is, I was paying about $400 less monthly to do a half lease - so I feel paying $400 for one day more of riding is not such a bargain -- and I'm confused if I'm ungrateful or not.

So -- is it standard to Full Lease a horse and then pay someone else to train it???? I'm confused. Shouldn't a horse be fully trained if someone is going to charge you over $1,200 a month to ride it?

Or am I being ungrateful and demanding?

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post #2 of 6 Old 06-02-2012, 06:56 PM
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You are right on that one. The horse should be yours for a set number of days, the same days each week. However depending on your level of riding, some trainers have to ride the horse 2 days out of the week due to other peoples riding style. Each person is different when riding, such as hands, legs, cues. So this can in turn, make a good horse with great training go bad.
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I'm assuming that at that price you either live somewhere where it is VERY pricey to keep horses, or you are leasing a very high end horse. I'll respond assuming the latter

For a higher end H/J, he certainly needs to have consistent training and conditioning. However, I'd assume that you are also an advanced rider to be leasing a horse of that caliber, and if you are taking lessons on this horse, that should suffice. If the trainer feels that he still needs to be ridden twice weekly while being ridden by an advanced rider taking lessons, then this horse should not be offered for a full lease.

I wouldn't consider one extra day each week worth the price difference between a full and part lease.
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post #4 of 6 Old 06-02-2012, 07:51 PM
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Would you be able to ride before or after the owner does her training?
1200 is such a high amount for a lease, full leases around here are $400 and that's high end. Talk to other horse people and look around at other lease horses. Compare them by ability and price. You may be getting ripped off.
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post #5 of 6 Old 06-02-2012, 07:56 PM
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I wouldn't be happy either.

That is a LOT of money for just one more day and yes the training does help in the long run but this shouldn't be done on your time. You should be able to have your X amount of days and the horse gets trained another time... it's perfectly possible.

I personally wouldn't want to keep this arrangement..

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post #6 of 6 Old 06-02-2012, 08:19 PM
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Wow you pay that much to lease a horse. Jeez for that price I would want unlimited access. I think she should give you a set amount of days you are paying for and she should do her training opposite to you, your the customer she needs to be meeting your needs. JMO
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