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  • Why does my pony pull his nose nose forward

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    01-11-2012, 09:03 PM
  #11
Trained
I will try to get one tomorrow of my horse doing it. Sounds like Butt in the Dirt's horse may be a little different than mine though.
     
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    01-11-2012, 09:06 PM
  #12
Weanling
Well, Amber sometimes "hangs" on me (basically the same thing, except with more contact it's a bit more annoying and makes it hard for me to maintain a good position). Usually when she gets tired, she never tries until the last few minutes of a ride. Giving her a bump usually nips it in the bud pretty quick.

I'm sure a chiro would improve his performance. Amber has an appointment at the end of the month, in fact. A kinesiologist, actually, but still, adjustments to the structure can do nothing but good when they're done by a professional.

I'd just suggest you try being a little more firm. Send him forward and wherever he tries to avoid you, be it throwing his shoulder out, getting on the forehand, or nose dragging, whatever - send him forward and just make him unhappy when he's disobeying. Just make sure you reward by taking the pressure off him. Punishment does no good without reward for correctness! ;)
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    01-11-2012, 09:13 PM
  #13
Trained
Mine won't try to do it if I have him up in the bridle. He does it when I have him on a loose rein.
     
    01-11-2012, 09:44 PM
  #14
Weanling
Your response should still be the same. Making it uncomfortable for him to nose drag should stop it.
     
    01-11-2012, 09:50 PM
  #15
Trained
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Originally Posted by DressageIsToDance    
Your response should still be the same. Making it uncomfortable for him to nose drag should stop it.
Thank you!
     
    01-11-2012, 09:55 PM
  #16
Showing
Personally.. from what I'm hearing.. if you only pull with one rein.. you are putting a block on the forward motion. So if you pull a rein I would suggest using more leg (or heel) on the opposite side. So left rein, right leg and vice versa.

I know when my horse decides to chomp and pull down on the bit, I pull one rein and tap him with my heel and he stops. You don't want to create more problems by only relying on the mouth to fix it... does that make sense?
     
    01-11-2012, 10:03 PM
  #17
Trained
Quote:
Originally Posted by Skyseternalangel    
Personally.. from what I'm hearing.. if you only pull with one rein.. you are putting a block on the forward motion. So if you pull a rein I would suggest using more leg (or heel) on the opposite side. So left rein, right leg and vice versa.

I know when my horse decides to chomp and pull down on the bit, I pull one rein and tap him with my heel and he stops. You don't want to create more problems by only relying on the mouth to fix it... does that make sense?
Yes ma'am, that does makes sense. So what do you with a horse that doesn't pull on the bit. He only does it on a loose rein.


(Sorry ButtInTheDirt...I hijacked your thread...hopefully your getting some suggestions out of this!)
     
    01-11-2012, 10:17 PM
  #18
Showing
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Originally Posted by COWCHICK77    
Yes ma'am, that does makes sense. So what do you with a horse that doesn't pull on the bit. He only does it on a loose rein.


(Sorry ButtInTheDirt...I hijacked your thread...hopefully your getting some suggestions out of this!)
Well there is a technique that I was taught. It's called "combing" the reins, and depending on how you do it, it encourages the horse (gently) to lift their head up or work it down. It works on some horses, I don't like it because there are better ways to work with it. But here you go: The quest for Equipoise: Combing the reins

The only difference is you want to bring your horse's head UP, so you'd turn your palms up and comb them like that, instead of down. Then once you have his head up at the walk, move to the trot.. then the canter. Start at a halt and release as soon as the horse begins to come up. Please don't overdue it... like other tools, if used too much without breaks or used incorrectly, it can cause problems.

Good luck
     
    01-11-2012, 11:01 PM
  #19
Showing
How much arena work is he getting as to the amount of trail riding? I think he's trying to tell you he's sick of the arena. I suspect that in time his unwanted behaviour will escalate. He needs some relaxing trail rides with a change of scenery. To the horse arena work holds nothing of interest for him and he's forced to do mundane circles, over and over, day after day.
     
    01-11-2012, 11:06 PM
  #20
Trained
Quote:
Originally Posted by Skyseternalangel    
Well there is a technique that I was taught. It's called "combing" the reins, and depending on how you do it, it encourages the horse (gently) to lift their head up or work it down. It works on some horses, I don't like it because there are better ways to work with it. But here you go: The quest for Equipoise: Combing the reins

The only difference is you want to bring your horse's head UP, so you'd turn your palms up and comb them like that, instead of down. Then once you have his head up at the walk, move to the trot.. then the canter. Start at a halt and release as soon as the horse begins to come up. Please don't overdue it... like other tools, if used too much without breaks or used incorrectly, it can cause problems.

Good luck
I don't want to sound like a dummy, but what is the theory behind this...I have never seen it before. I am curious as to why it works.
     

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