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    06-20-2012, 03:31 PM
Had a bad ride today :/

Hey all. Sorry if this is long and rambly, but I'm so frustrated... I just got in from the barn, I'd come out today lookin forward to a good ride on my girl. Didn't really turn out how I'd hoped :(

For anyone who doesn't know, she was off for two years due to a pregnancy, and then an abscessed foot that refused to heal quickly. I've been riding her again this spring and she's been doing so good, I've even had her back at gymkhana. I'm hopin to barrel race with her when she's fitted up.

So I was ridin her English today as my western saddle is Locked in the trailer and we can't find the keys. I was only riding her in a small pasture as I am still a little unsteady on an English saddle. As soon as I took her out she refused to go to the end of the pasture opposite where the other horses are. She spun and carried on, sidestepping from one side of the field to the other everytime I would point her away from the other horses. After fighting with her for five minutes or so I pointed her towards the horses and backed her all the way to the end of the field she didn't want to go to an made her stand. I then rode her around a little down there before letting her walk back up, and then asking her to go back to the other end. Again, she absolutely refused to go, actually going as far as rearing up, which she hasnt done in a long time. I rode her through it and circled her around, made her stand, and got off. Then I walked her everywhere she didn't want to go, and then tried to get back on again, an she would not stand for me. I then took her in and unsaddled her, and then lunged her in the round pen for probably 10 minutes at a trot, and then walked her out for another 5-10. I asked for a few things on the ground (lateral flexion, moved her hindquarters around with pressure to her sides) and then jumped back on bareback with a halter and rode her around the round pen, an she was good. Then I just brushed her down and turned her loose.

Wow, that's way longer than I was expecting haha. If you just read all that, your a saint. I know she's very herdbound, and once I can put the new geldings in with the mares I'm putting her in on her own for the summer. But I just don't know how to break her of being so resistant to leaving the others. If I go on a ride with someone else she's an absolute angel. Im attending a Charmayne James clinic with her in a few weeks, and I'm hoping she will be able to help me with her.
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    06-20-2012, 03:52 PM
Green Broke
You need to really work on trust and respect. She doesnt want to leave the others because a) she doesnt trust you to keep her safe and b) she doesnt have very much respect.

If you set out to do something(like get back on in the arena) you really need to keep at it until you acheive your goal. Trying to get on, then giving up when she refuses to listen and moving on to something else reinforces her lack of respect.
    06-20-2012, 04:06 PM
How can I gain her trust and respect? Most the time I ride her around home she argues with me and after about 20 minutes she settles down and does what I ask. I have a feeling she doesn't do it because she wants to though, and simply because she is supposed to... I want her to want to work with me
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    06-20-2012, 04:16 PM
I have a mare that was the same way, very difficult to ride away from the barn or her buddies. What has worked for me is circle, circle, circle.....as soon as she balks I circle her several times & then ask her to go forward, if she refuses I repeat the process until she gives in. The first few times it took almost an hour to get her down the driveway and across the road (which was the initial goal I set for myself). Now, several weeks later, I can ride away from the barn without any issues.
    06-21-2012, 08:07 PM
Green Broke
I find very few horses that operate on the "I want to do this to please you" and more that operate on the "I am doing this because you have told me to" attitude.

While the popular thought is to "bond with your horse and it will do amazing things" I still believe the bottom line is mostly the horse has been trained to do what the leader wants.

Case in point. We had a really good QH mare, who was the boss period. She spent days, all day long, herding my QH gelding from one side of pasture to other, making him go to the water trough, making him go to woods, all day, every day. He was not the only horse in there, just the only one she wanted to make work.

Bonanza sure wasn't doing it because they had bonded. Matter of fact, you could look at him and tell pretty clearly what his thoughts were on the entire matter. But he did it because the consequences were not going to be pretty.

Your horse will never think first of pleasing you in deciding to do something. It is that it is responding to the training it has had, along with the position of leadership/horsemanship you display.

And for the record. One of the most dangerous things you can do, especially with a horse acting up like this, is to ride in a pasture with other horses that are loose.

Horse needs more time spent in basics, as well as wet saddle blankets.
    06-21-2012, 08:31 PM
Little witch, huh? Hope the clinic can help you get some discipline & respect from her. Good luck!
    06-21-2012, 09:02 PM
To straighten one thing out, there were no other horses in the pasture, I had them all in the barnyard.
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