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post #1 of 16 Old 05-09-2011, 08:26 PM Thread Starter
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HELP!!!!! my horse is jumping on his forehand:(

I have a Black solid paint named Stuart Little. He is a good jumper except for he jumps on his forehand. Do you giz have any tips for me. Im going to a show on the 14th so anything that may help i can try. Also, instead of chipping in a stride before the jump he jumps cuicidle( sorry for the bad spelling im tired) distances away from the jump. lol

One last thing, he does good with transitions but on occation he'll just rush into it and it'll take him forever before he'll go into the gait that i want him to especially the canter. I use a crop sometimes but i'd like to get him so he'll get the canter without a crop, and nicely. Can you all please help me......

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post #2 of 16 Old 05-09-2011, 08:43 PM
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Other than using gridwork with lots of bounces incorporated in, one good visual I have is to canter the horse's hind legs to the base of the jump, square oxers more than verticals, so he has to use himself properly to lear the jump.

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post #3 of 16 Old 05-09-2011, 08:45 PM
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gymnastics help alot. alot of ground work, using half halts to rock him back on his hind quarters. give him a few good half halts before the just to steady him up. also do alot of circle work again using your half halts.

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post #4 of 16 Old 05-09-2011, 09:04 PM
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Does he travel on the forehand on the flat? Is he built in a way that makes him more predisposed to travel on the forehand?

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post #5 of 16 Old 05-10-2011, 07:45 AM Thread Starter
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No, he doesnt travel on his forehand on the flat, but when i jump him he'll go on his forehand. But im almost positive on the flat he doesnt on the flat because someone wouldv said something. I can look into it more tho. Thanks for all the ideas. :)

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post #6 of 16 Old 05-10-2011, 07:50 AM
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does he have a good half halt ? from the problems you described it sounds like he doesnt. a half halt can help you get him off his forhand and also correct his rushing into gaits.

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post #7 of 16 Old 05-10-2011, 09:34 AM
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So you have any videos or pictures of you jumping him? Sometimes if you sit too far forward to the jump they have too much weight on the front, hence why they would fall on the forehand. That also would contribute to rushing.
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if he's jumping on the fore, i'm betting he's not properly engaged or muscled on the flat either. first and foremost it sounds to me like he is not at ALL ready to be shown OF. next, i'd go back to some basics. i'm going to sound like a broken record here, but there's a reason why so many people preach trot sets - because they work! soooo trot, trot and more trot. lots of serpentines, changes of bend and direction, circles, figure 8s etc., staring on a long rein to allow your horse to stretch down and reach for the bit without you holding his head up or asking for a "frame".

as he gets more fit you will find your horse seeking a rein contact - at that point you can take a light following soft contact on the reins. please remember - reins are not for steering or brakes, they are your telephone line to communicate with your horse! your primary steering and brakes come from your seat and leg.

that said, once you can trot consistently with all of the above without the horse losing engagement of hind / back when you change bend or direction, then you can progress to jumping. you can start jumping a little sooner but i'm hesitant to push a horse OF before they are moving properly on the flat as i find it tends to encourage them to jump from the fore, even through gymnastics.

one of my favorite exercises for horses is to set up 3 jumps one stride apart each with a ground pole in between them to perfectly set the striding. the jumps should be x-rails set no higher than 18" in the center. format is x - stride - x - stride - x with striding marked with the ground pole. take the horse both directions over this exercise until the horse is able to jump smoothly and calmly without rushing or getting "stuck" and you can simply go into your two point and stay there without having to guide the horse. the goal here is for you to do as little as possible while staying centered and out of the horse's way and focus on YOUR position - heels down, back flat, shoulders back, eyes up, etc. let the horse focus on HIS position - knees up, engage hind, balance, steady pace, etc.

once you have mastered this in both directions, make the ground poles small verticals no more than 2' in height. you should start with them at 18" and after mastering it at that height can increase to 2'. this would make the combination look like this - x - vert - x - vert - x - essentially an all-bounce line. because it is low, it will not be that technically challenging for the horse but the fact that there are no strides between the fences will encourage use of hind end and back end. and by setting distances accurately and precisely, the horse won't have to worry about where to take off or land, the combination will do that for him. again you focus on you, your horse can focus on him, with the goal being to ride this as smoothly as possible in both directions. it's a great exercise for both horse and rider, and the key is to not interfere!!!!! let your horse figure it out. because the fences are so low, it's okay to let your horse knock rails the first few times - soon enough he'll figure out the combination and learn how to navigate it without relying on you for balance or support!

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I might be able to show you a video of us from the show but he has been much better. Also, before I started to ride him he had little muscle, and my instructor said that he now has muscle and he has been MUCH better, so i don't know if that had anything 2 do with it by any chance but today when I had a lesson he had a nice short, bouncy canter and didn't go on his forehand. YAY and i have been doing lots of troting and circles. Thanks for all your advice to it helped a lot <3

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Musleing has lots to do with it if you are not fit you can not preform. I do an opiening up of the sholders exercise that helps put them on ther hunches. You walk tort and canter a square dont round your corner make them a 90 dagree turn by pushing them around with your leg.

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