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        11-15-2010, 09:27 PM
      #11
    Yearling
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    Originally Posted by Spastic_Dove    
    Punishment should be quick, effective, and appropriate for the action that causes it. It should never be out of frustration or anger, and should take place within the first 3 seconds. After that the horse can't connect the action and the punishment.

    ^^^
    Those words. I really like Cherry Hill's approach to things. Especially the theories in "How to think like a Horse".
         
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        11-15-2010, 09:34 PM
      #12
    Foal
    Personally, the only 'natural' horsemanship I go with is Monty Roberts.
    But I firmly agree with this:

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    Punishment should be quick, effective, and appropriate for the action that causes it. It should never be out of frustration or anger, and should take place within the first 3 seconds. After that the horse can't connect the action and the punishment.
    I've also found that if using a crop when riding, and your horse is being exceptionally naughty, giving one or two *hard* smacks behind the leg, is far more effective than three or four 'tickles' on the shoulder, as one of my old instructers said to me once.

    And.
    If I ever saw ANYONE kick a horse from the ground, I'd personally kick that person back.
         
        11-15-2010, 09:47 PM
      #13
    Green Broke
    I agree with quick punishment. I don't agree with kicking a horse the way it sounds this man did. Luckily he didn't get a quick punishment back.
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        11-15-2010, 09:48 PM
      #14
    Trained
    I don't know who Cherry Hill is but I do like Monty Roberts.
         
        11-16-2010, 03:40 PM
      #15
    Yearling
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Spastic_Dove    
    I don't know who Cherry Hill is but I do like Monty Roberts.

    You have to get her book "How to think like a horse". You will love it
         
        11-16-2010, 03:49 PM
      #16
    Banned
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    Originally Posted by Shimla101    
    If I ever saw ANYONE kick a horse from the ground, I'd personally kick that person back.
    Why? Do you really think a human on the ground has any where near the impact as another horse or a whip?

    Why say kicking is so bad but other things are not?
         
        11-16-2010, 03:59 PM
      #17
    Yearling
    I think it's ok to hit a horse if they deserve it. I hit my horse with a broom because she was pawing on the ground and didn't listen me when I yelled. I would have smacked her with my hand, but I was sweeping. I didnt beat her though...just a little smack to tell her she's being annoying. My trainer throws rocks at the horse if they keep stopping at jumps.

    I understand some horses get really upset when they are hit, so those horses are Ok with just a yell.

    Horses are big, and a human hitting them doesn't really hurt them. It just startles them, and makes them listen.
         
        11-16-2010, 04:35 PM
      #18
    Weanling
    I agree with the quick punishment. We have a OTTB at the barn I work at that is a mess! He constantly trys to bite/nip me when I am getting him out of his stall to put him in his paddock and when I get him out of his paddock he acts like a fool and tries to run all over me. A quick smat/swat to the mouth usually gets him in line for a least a few minutes lol.
         
        11-16-2010, 04:42 PM
      #19
    Green Broke
    Ok let's say you kick your horse because he did something terrible. Fine, but to kick them constantly, I don't think is right. This man sounds like he has anger issues.
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        11-16-2010, 05:01 PM
      #20
    Foal
    I am new to this training thing with horses, but I have tried different training methods and find that some trainers feel hitting is OK. I don't agree, I've trained dogs for years and even had a rabbit and guinea pig who walked on leashes and have always trained with firm discipline and kindness, but you do have to be in charge. Smacking them in a way another horse does, as in a nip on the butt or a full smack to the chest as corrective as so many of you have said sounds totally reasonable and works.
    But I agree with those of you who are against this man who kicks them in the rump to motivate them, I find a Tiny bite from a dressage whip works great or even a dressage bat, the noise will send my girl flying with a tucked butt and it is only noise.
    I have been watching videos (free) on statelinetack.com made by Chris Irwin, I got a line on from another forum, and he makes sense, teaches how to think and interact with your horse. I tried Clinton Anderson and the tap tap tap pissed my arab off but this method I use now by C. Irwin is working for her, she's such an angry soul (a 4 yr old rescue, couldn't let her be dog food). Hope this helps, from one novice to another. I also try Gawani Pony Boy, but only the ground, no round pen. Sorry so long!
         

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