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post #11 of 18 Old 08-29-2012, 10:34 PM
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Horses don't think about whether it is appealing or whatever to be ridden. Horses think "I don't want to" along with "you can't make me" which is exactly what this horse is telling you.

She has your number.

Get someone that is there to work with you on your handling skills from the ground as well as riding skills. And stop the treats.

Graining her away from the barn would help, but if you can't remount easily, I wouldn't. And no grazing either, as that is another sign of disrespect.

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post #12 of 18 Old 08-30-2012, 09:39 AM
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Horses like this. I make them work HARD at the barn or around the herd and only let them walkif they walk off in the direction I want.

I do this with my own horses. as far as her not moving id have a whip with me and id start soft.and gradually that things Gunna sting. more and more, harder till she moves. Also applying my leg and seat.

some I surprise.
I'm like, legs/seat... Do that a little harder...
Okay I'll bump them.

Then with a whip.
They get a good hard surprise pop. On the ass.
Some jump forward at first though.

but for a horse just testing and not wanting to move I like disengaging hip. Pulling nose to my knee. and seat/leg possible whip if needed. And I'll throw my weight around to get them off balance and it gets them stepping sometimes since they're already off with their head by my,knee. But with the steps they get automatic release of pressure and their head back. I try to keep them going forward at the same time though or you gotta start over.
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post #13 of 18 Old 09-01-2012, 09:18 PM
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My horse had the same problem. We went out on the same trail every day for three months (literally every day) while I was rehabbing a joint issue. He would get to the gate where the trail started and it was like he hit a wall. He wouldn't go forwards or sideways, just backwards. What I did was turn him around so he could see the barn and made him back up the whole way. If he wants to back up, then he can back up my way. Then we did lots of bending and leg yields to make him understand that it's a lot more work to refuse. He still does this somedays, but I at least have a solution.
I have to ride in spurs and a bat and somedays I feel like a horrible person for getting after him, but it has to happen. I think he associates the trail with work and he doesn't want to work. When I take him off the property to go cross country schooling he is totally fine to go where ever I want him to go because it's fun. Maybe try to go to a different place once in a while? I haven't read all of the posts so I dont know if someone already said this
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post #14 of 18 Old 09-01-2012, 10:26 PM Thread Starter
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thx for all the advice and all the "my horse does that too"s. the solution is a crop. last tues we had a showdown. basically she did all the same stuff, but this time i had a crop. started normally by asking her to move, then moved on to me telling her to move (with heavy leg and vocal cues), and when that didnt work i demanded that she go (wih a solid quick pop from the crop). she still really didnt want to go, but i think she realized that i was serious that time. sooooo, on to today. im just back from a ride and she pulled this again today, but at the barn instead of gate. i tried the one solid pop and she still didnt go, so i followed that with light pops repeatedly until she made a step forward. as soon as she made a step (still very stubborn about it) i stopped and told her good girl. we did this for about 5 paces then she decided she better go. was fine after that. went out the gate with no problems. again, why can't we do that from the start?! ugh. but its getting better. i figure she will stop completely in a few weeks. she has these patterns that she goes through.
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post #15 of 18 Old 09-13-2012, 04:55 PM
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Ground work ground work ground work.

If you can't get her moving on the ground, don't expect to get her moving under saddle, either. Along with herd sourness, it seems she may not even respect you, and as said before, sees you as a "pest" she can just ignore.

Ground work pretty much sets the blue print for respect, and things you plan to do under saddle. If it were me, I'd prolly not even ride her again until I got her respect and have our ground manners under control.
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post #16 of 18 Old 09-16-2012, 11:17 AM
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I am a bit late in this but I wanted to comment because I just stopped riding a mare that does this daily. She flat out refuses to move forward. She had been checked by a chiro, vet and saddle fitter. Everything ruled out, so I thought.

Anyway we ended up doing the "spin and beat". If she wont move forward she is going to spin circles while being smacked with the crop. It would work but it was tiring and flat out annoying to do constantly because I felt like I was beating on this poor horse and I could not figure out what her issue was.

I felt there was more then "I don't want to move". It turned out to be hormonal. Her hormones were in over load making her a *****.

Mares... for some strange reason I just can't help but love them but my goodness they are a handful and a half at times.
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post #17 of 18 Old 09-16-2012, 11:34 AM
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When some mares are in standing heat, they are stimulated by almost anything and are likely best left alone that day. But this mare is barn sour, and is insecure about leaving what represents security to her. I commend you for dismounting and continuing on but you need to motivate her hindquarters. You can do this by lunging her just one or two circles then having her reverse. The change of direction does more than circles. The circle creates forward movement. It doesn't have to be fast, even just the walk but you are telling her to move her feet. Do this near the barn then take her for a walk past the gates. When she hesitates, lunge her with reverses but just a few to get her mind back on you. Walk her on. If she's smart she'll figure out it's easy on her out on the walk but she gets a vigorous workout near the barn. Do this for 3 days in a row if you can without riding. The repetition will keep her motivated to listen to you.
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post #18 of 18 Old 09-16-2012, 07:21 PM
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My advice.....make her work her tail off at home before you head out, and when you're out let her relax.....if she's a dink while you're out take her home and work her butt off.....this way she'll learn that being away from home is good!
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