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post #1 of 19 Old 08-19-2009, 01:14 AM Thread Starter
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Which horse to lease!? What do I do?


I am leasing a horse. I've come to the conclusion that I can afford it.
I am stuck between two horses which today I rode and thought it would be an easy choice but after riding them both, it is not.

Horse number one:

Rocky, a 19 year old Arabian Gelding.
He is boarded at a small private barn about 30 mins away, with just 10 stalls and an outdoor arena.
When I rode him he was very slow/lazy.. granted he has not really been ridden all summer, he was not THAT bad. But his canter was the smoothest thing I've ever felt. I've never felt safer on a horse... I can trust that he will never spook, bolt, bite, kick or buck. That's a nice feeling.
He is 100$/mo for 2 days a week. (or $200 for unlimited days but I don't think I can afford that right now)
The girl leasing him would not be leasing him to anyone else and therefore she is very very flexible with days and very cool about changes, she seemed very laid back and nice.
She offers lessons at 20$/hour (private) but I don't believe she is certified in any way.
Rocky can jump up to 3'
Rocky, being as old and *ahem* slow.. as he is... would be a good safe mount, though perhaps with not so much potential for growth.

Horse number two:

Legacy, an 8 year old Standardbred mare (not an ugly one though.. HAHA)
She is boarded at a much larger barn, yet it is still low key.
They have a very large outdoor arena and a fair sized indoor arena.
It rains A LOT in the winters here, and even snows sometimes... so indoor is a plus.
The woman leasing him is very nice, as are her two girls, who will also be taking care of and riding Legacy. She is also willing to be very flexible with days/times.
They loved the way I rode her (I didn't know I was any good..)
Lessons there are offered at 25$/hour and are taught by a certified instructor.
Legacy is up for $100 for one day $150 for two days... and as far as I know there is no option for more days. I would do the 150.
When I was riding legacy I could definitely tell she was a younger. She was very spooky about a couple things in the ring. Her canter was nice, but she was a bit harder to keep on the track. (I have to give her that she had a deworming thing, and shots and her teeth floated today. SO given her rough day.. she was good)
She has only just started jumping and is somewhat spooked by jumps, so I didn't take her over any.

Anyway, I don't know which horse to pick.
The old safe guy who is cheaper but has no indoor arena, and maybe isn't a very exciting ride

Or the young spunky thing who is pretty eager to please.. but still really spooky and maybe not so safe.. yet exciting! But costs a little more...

Helllp meeee.
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post #2 of 19 Old 08-19-2009, 01:25 AM
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If it were me, I think I'd go with the older horse, but that's just my personality, I like to play it safe.

BUT, if you were to go with the younger horse you could get lessons to help with any problems you might be having and you might improve a bit more than with the safe old guy.

At the same time, if you're interested in showing or anything the older guy looks like he might be able to get you there (not saying the younger one couldn't but it'd take more work) and with the older guy you can improve yourself more instead of worrying about the horse and having to improve the horse like you might with the younger one.
That's kinda an issue I have. The whole time I was taking lessons and even now I've always ridden the horses with training issues and stuff so I've developed a style of riding that keeps me on the horse but isn't pretty (so I have a lot of work ahead of me if I want to ever show) and is actually kinda dangerous at times. After ten or so years of weekly riding those bad habits are pretty ingrained and really hard to fix. If I could go back in time I'd choose to make the horse that I rode in my first few years of riding be pretty solid because I'd be more solid now, yknow?

I'm not sure I gave you a good answer but hopefully it'll help you out a little bit. =)

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post #3 of 19 Old 08-19-2009, 01:57 AM Thread Starter
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I'm really surprised by that answer actually wallaby.
I figured most people would say the younger one (she just seemed so much more alert... but then again she was spooky. Uhg I think of one pro for each, and then theres always a con behind it!). Uhg, I don't know what to do. My bf thinks I should go with the younger one because of the whole indoor ring thing... He's got a point, through Dec and Jan I may not be able to ride too much outside. But he never met the arab or the woman leasing him... so he's got a bias towards the second family(the standardbred) as well (They were very sweet) So I can't entirely trust his opinion. AND he doesn't know anything about horses. He's just judging the facility and the people.
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I would go with the older one too, besides I have an arabian/QH that is 16 and he is super lazy but when he gets excited he is SO much fun to ride. I just loves the arabians personalitys, and IMO 19 isn't that old (expecially since your not buying him). I agree with wallaby that you need a horse that you don't have to worry about so you can become confident in yourself.

Of course, the young one would be nice too . You'll just have to decide whats more important to you.

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I'm leaning toward the younger one for some reason. I don't know, I've been up all night over this.
I felt like I had a better connection or something.
When I was riding the older guy I didn't feel.... anything really. haha.
The family leasing the young one said I could ride her a few more times before I decide so I am going to do that I think. Maybe she was having a bad day do to the vet and dentist visits she'd had.
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post #6 of 19 Old 08-19-2009, 01:24 PM
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If you want to improve as a rider lease the older horse.
If you are a good rider and want to give away "free training" lease the younger horse.

Ask the Arab owner about the raining thing - since she is so flexible I'm betting she'd allow you to change days when you miss a ride due to weather. The Stb owners (the kids) sound like the mare may not be a good mixture for them so perhaps they're thinking you ride her when she's a bit wild and calm her down for their kids - NOT a good idea. In fact you need to take into account how good of a rider the other leasers/owners are - in the Arab's case you know since she owns the horse and has been the only person riding him. She good. In the Stb's case I'm betting the mare is fairly new to them and as the kids are not 100% comfortable since she can be "frisky" perhaps they're hoping someone riding the mare (and paying for it) will help the mare be "tired" thus less frisky when their kids ride it.

If you go with the younger horse negotiate down to the Arab's price by telling them that you found a VERY nice (don't mention slow) older horse with TONS of training you can learn to ride better on - and for less money than their mare! Bet they'll come down if you give them your contact information (phone #, email) within a couple of days. If not - that's just another reason to choose the Arab as you'll have more money fr "lessons".

And the Arab's owner being uncertified? It matters more how well she rides her horse and can get you to ride more correctly.
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The kids are actually better riders than me (They are in their mid-teens and have been riding for years). I've informed the stb owners very clearly that I have only been riding for 3 months and only have my walk, trot, canter and small jumps down. They know I am a beginner. My riding instructor thinks I should go with the stb, but you guys all think I should go with the arab. I'm so torn. I wish I had a horse savvy friends I could bring with me. I hate making decisions by myself :(

What I didn't like about the arab's owner was that she treated me like I was an idiot. Maybe it's because I look really young, people do that sometimes when they forget that I am the same age as them.

And yeah she will let me switch days if it rains, but in Vancouver, in the winter.. it will rain every day for weeks. That's what I am most worried about.

Don't forget I will still be taking lessons at my current barn on a lesson horse. I am not going to just ride the horse I lease.
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In all honesty...I think you should go with the younger horse. I would rather tide my mare that can spook than any dead-broke push button horse any day. I also think it all depends on what you're going to do with them. If you're going to show, choose the arab, if you're going to just ride choose the younger one, it sounds like you like that one more anyways.
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post #9 of 19 Old 08-19-2009, 04:41 PM
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Well if the Arab's owner treated you like you're an idiot and you're still going to be taking lessons, the stb might not be such a bad choice. You could still try talking the owners down to a cheaper price using the Arab though, if you wanted to try. =P Good luck!

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I would follow your riding instructor's advice, she probably knows your skill level and what type of horse you need far more than any of us do. I would try to talk the STB's owners down though... it can't hurt and they're probably expecting it
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