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  • 2007-2008 19 eventing horses died

 
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    02-16-2009, 07:26 PM
  #21
Weanling
I am not a fan of either PETA or horse racing....
There are sooo many TBs that need homes and often people wont take one because of the leg issues most come with. Racing a horse usually only lasts like a year or two and then what happens to those horses? Get sent on a truck to become dog food. Sorry but I have an OTTB. I agree they need to breed for better horses not ones with horrible feet...pretty stupid in my eyes! Joe has this crack in the middle of his front (i want to say right) hoove that is genetic, I can't get rid of it, the farrier says that a lot of TBs he has dealt with have similar problems, they have bad feet. I think they breed too much of the wrong type of horses (if that makes sense! Lol), there should be a law and liscensing to breed horses. But I also agree that no not all race horse owners are bad people. Something needs to be done with horse racing but not by PETA's hands......
     
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    02-16-2009, 08:55 PM
  #22
Green Broke
Hmmmm some truth, but not all TBs have bad legs and feet. And also, horses race until the age of nine or ten.
     
    02-16-2009, 09:14 PM
  #23
Yearling
A lot of blanket statements in your first post, so i'll correct them.
Yes, horse racing can be cruel. Ever been to the philly track? And I'm not talking about watching, but in the stalls. It's nasty. These horses are stalled all day except for one hour when they run, 90% of ALL RACEHORSES have ulcers, and I know at the Philly track, drugs are rampant.
Race horses aren't started at two, they're often started at 1 or 1 and half, and RACED at two. Raced at two means they have to be trained and order to race. All of the Race TBs we got in at school to break and train were a year old.
'The owners love their horses, always.'
No, they don't. Perhaps you need to meet some other owners, but there are a LOT of owners that don't care about the horse, they just care about the money.
'yes there are acedents, but none more than in eventing, jumping, barrel racing, and pole bending. '

Very big blanket statement, also VERY incorrect. "Around 800 racehorses die each year from fatal injuries suffered on US racetracks. An additional number of approximately 3,566 sustain injuries so bad that they cannot finish their races."
Huh, that's a lot. These are also the best guesses possible, because the Jockey Club REFUSES to publish details on how many horses actually die. Well, isn't that interesting!

For eventing, jumping, barrel racing? I can't find a number above a 100, and that's during competition. For eventing, I found '19 horses' for 2007-2008.

I think that racing can be done correctly, so that there is as little risk to the horse and rider as possible, but please don't think that the whole of racing is pretty. It's not--too much money involved.
     
    02-16-2009, 09:25 PM
  #24
Green Broke
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Originally Posted by mayfieldk    
A lot of blanket statements in your first post, so i'll correct them.
Yes, horse racing can be cruel. Ever been to the philly track? And I'm not talking about watching, but in the stalls. It's nasty. These horses are stalled all day except for one hour when they run, 90% of ALL RACEHORSES have ulcers, and I know at the Philly track, drugs are rampant.
Race horses aren't started at two, they're often started at 1 or 1 and half, and RACED at two. Raced at two means they have to be trained and order to race. All of the Race TBs we got in at school to break and train were a year old.
'The owners love their horses, always.'
No, they don't. Perhaps you need to meet some other owners, but there are a LOT of owners that don't care about the horse, they just care about the money.
'yes there are acedents, but none more than in eventing, jumping, barrel racing, and pole bending. '

Very big blanket statement, also VERY incorrect. "Around 800 racehorses die each year from fatal injuries suffered on US racetracks. An additional number of approximately 3,566 sustain injuries so bad that they cannot finish their races."
Huh, that's a lot. These are also the best guesses possible, because the Jockey Club REFUSES to publish details on how many horses actually die. Well, isn't that interesting!

For eventing, jumping, barrel racing? I can't find a number above a 100, and that's during competition. For eventing, I found '19 horses' for 2007-2008.

I think that racing can be done correctly, so that there is as little risk to the horse and rider as possible, but please don't think that the whole of racing is pretty. It's not--too much money involved.
hmmmm, lots of horses are stalled all day, so that really has nothing to do with the races. I have never heard of a track in philly, hence the condition of it. Low level track, no horse care. Have you ever been to a real track? Oaklawn, Keenland, Churchill, Santa Anita? Have you ever met owners of the horses? I would suspect not because I know LOTS of owners and most of them really care about their horses. So do the trainers. Alot of trainers really don't start their horses that early and most people don't let them. And people make a big deal about this because one horse dies. It is sad yes, but how many cry for the horses that are put out of their poor misary? I'd rather a horse be put down than live a life in pain.
     
    02-16-2009, 09:36 PM
  #25
Yearling
First of all, Smarty Jones came out of the Philly track. ;) So it's a high enough level for a Kentucky Derby/Preakness winner to come out of there. Don't denounce it if you don't know about it--this happens at ALL tracks.

And yes, a lot of owners care, but not all of them, and you said always.

'lot of trainers really don't start their horses that early and most people don't let them.'

Incorrect. Most Derby horses need to be ready for it at three, and many if not all have 2-year old starts. Which means they are broke before two.

'And people make a big deal about this because one horse dies.'

Or, 800 on the track, with another 3,000+ who can't finish the race. That's not 'one horse'.
     
    02-16-2009, 09:41 PM
  #26
Trained
Philly track is a big enough racetrack. I have spent time at santa anita and I have to agree with pretty much everything mayfieldk. A lot of the crap owners LOVE their horses. But only when they're winning. They are a means to financial gains to these people.

Those horses start training at one. How else do they start racing as a two year old?
     
    02-16-2009, 09:45 PM
  #27
Green Broke
I swear..... We always love our horses, no matter if they win or not. They are a big part of our life. Alot of people do. And they might start training at 1, but they don't get backed until two and race later on at winter tracks. Some horses only race once at the age of 2. And also if money is such a BIG part of this indsustry, then why are most trainers and owners strugalling and broke?
     
    02-16-2009, 09:47 PM
  #28
Green Broke
Oh, and Smarty also did most of his racing and training in AR at oaklawn. He beacame famous THERE not Philly
     
    02-16-2009, 09:51 PM
  #29
Trained
Not everyone in horses love thier horses. I think that is undebatable.

And I don't think that you can argue that even breezing a 2 year old is healthy for them. These horses are not built to withstand the level of work they do. They're raced too early and for too long of distanes.

Horse racing is not in and of itself cruel, but there are many things that need to change in the industry to protect the horses.

There are PLENTY of people who try and dip into the horse racing industry and don't make it.
     
    02-16-2009, 09:56 PM
  #30
Green Broke
But tell me this, how is racing on a track any different than running around in a feild? Horses do that when they are two. They don't say "oh, my bones are too fragile, I shouldn't run!" It's pretty much the same thing, only carring a really light rider.
     

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