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    02-16-2009, 08:59 PM
  #31
Trained
Horses running in a field do it for short periods of time of their own violation. They do not have the added weight of a rider (which light or not still effects their movement and balance).

Riding on a track they are put into a fitting schedule and run for longer periods of time, pushed on the track, carry a rider. Horses jump things out in the field, but you wouldn't be jumping a two year old. Just because they do it when they are out playing doesn't mean it's a good idea to push them past what they are physically (and mentally) ready for.
     
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    02-16-2009, 09:01 PM
  #32
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Originally Posted by StormyBlues    
hmmmm, lots of horses are stalled all day, so that really has nothing to do with the races. I have never heard of a track in philly, hence the condition of it. Low level track, no horse care. Have you ever been to a real track? Oaklawn, Keenland, Churchill, Santa Anita? Have you ever met owners of the horses? I would suspect not because I know LOTS of owners and most of them really care about their horses. So do the trainers. Alot of trainers really don't start their horses that early and most people don't let them. And people make a big deal about this because one horse dies. It is sad yes, but how many cry for the horses that are put out of their poor misary? I'd rather a horse be put down than live a life in pain.
I personally have serious doubts about your race horse knowledge. I have found inconsistancy after inconsistancy in so many of your threads and the posts following this post I am quoting is simply showing to me this lack of knowledge. There is nothing wrong with not knowing something but to post about something you have little knowledge of is not going to make you sound credible when you actually do post about something you know.

I am not a TB trainer by any shot but I have worked on the backtrack of Woodbine and do know several owners and breeding farms.
     
    02-16-2009, 09:09 PM
  #33
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Originally Posted by Spyder    
I personally have serious doubts about your race horse knowledge. I have found inconsistancy after inconsistancy in so many of your threads and the posts following this post I am quoting is simply showing to me this lack of knowledge. There is nothing wrong with not knowing something but to post about something you have little knowledge of is not going to make you sound credible when you actually do post about something you know.

I am not a TB trainer by any shot but I have worked on the backtrack of Woodbine and do know several owners and breeding farms.
Hmmmmmmmm, ok why don't you go look up Bob Houlthus, he has said I know more about horses than him. Why don't you go and see that my grandfather and his buissness partner were on the top owner list at one point? Why don't you come and see that I have learned everything there is to know about the racing buissness from some of the most influential people in this buissness. I doubt you could name all the fillies that have won the derby. I doubt that you know half of the trainers in this buissness. You don't. I know the ins and outs of this buissness, because I was taught. And never heard of Woodbine, and if you knew anything about racing it is the backSIDE. Not "backtrack". And how am I "inconsistant"?
     
    02-16-2009, 09:16 PM
  #34
Trained
...I am trying to think of how to respond to that without violating some sort of HF rule.

Did you start this thread to prove to people or did you start it to learn? Because if it was to prove then I guess there's been really no reason for me to respond like I have.
But I think it is important to realize none of us are ever done learning. Not you, not me, none of are.

I also am wondering how you know the ins and outs of a buissiness but used the "they do it in a field so it must be okay" excuse that I hear a lot of people unfamiliar with horses use.

I don't mean that to be an insult btw, hopefully it doesn't come across as one.


EDIT: Woodbine is a canadian track (toronto) if I'm not mistaken. And I've heard many of my nz family call the backside the backtrack so perhaps it's the same in canada
     
    02-16-2009, 09:20 PM
  #35
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Originally Posted by StormyBlues    
Hmmmmmmmm, ok why don't you go look up Bob Houlthus, he has said I know more about horses than him.
I did and since I don't live in the US I had to do a MAJOR search for a seemingly minor trainer.

I did find him....he did very well winning a light and shifty Bishop Rock Race off San Diego...that is a boat race though.


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Why don't you go and see that my grandfather and his buissness partner were on the top owner list at one point?
Interesting that everyone knows you but you have no website for all your TBs..............

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Why don't you come and see that I have learned everything there is to know about the racing buissness from some of the most influential people in this buissness.
If you have learned EVERYTHING why ask us about "race Horse Training" in one of your earlier threads? You have already shown you don't know everything in this thread and you didn't even know that there are dilutes in TBs.


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I doubt you could name all the fillies that have won the derby. I doubt that you know half of the trainers in this buissness. You don't. I know the ins and outs of this buissness, because I was taught. And never heard of Woodbine, and if you knew anything about racing it is the backSIDE. Not "backtrack". And how am I "inconsistant"?

You never hear of Woodbine where secretariat ran his last race winning through the fog.

I rest my case.
     
    02-16-2009, 09:24 PM
  #36
Super Moderator
I'm going to lock this thread as I feel it has run it's course.
     

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