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post #91 of 200 Old 06-26-2011, 08:41 PM
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I agree with Palomino. I wasn't taking into consideration the possible age of the OP. My post was written with an adult in mind.

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post #92 of 200 Old 06-26-2011, 09:07 PM
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Palomine, spoken like a true horseperson. And even more important, a WISE person to say the least. Thank you

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post #93 of 200 Old 06-26-2011, 09:28 PM
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"There are just some horses that are naturally mean."

I still hold this for nonsense, but ok...let's say some horses are mentally ill...Charles Manson horses. But Max ain't one of them. He was fine when she got him. That means there is a good chance to reverse the process.
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post #94 of 200 Old 06-26-2011, 10:04 PM
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Every species of animal on the planet has naturally mean specimens, so to say it's nonsense that there are some naturally mean horses is... well, nonsense.

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post #95 of 200 Old 06-26-2011, 10:16 PM
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Great, so some screwed up horse rots in a pasture while 3 perfectly healthy ones go for slaughter.

I don't anthropomorphize animals. I quite frankly don't care WHY a particular horse is so screwed up that he's become a danger to everyone around him. I am willing (as are most) to put a certain amount of time into an animal, before realizing I could save THREE for the time, energy and money it's going to cost to save one. And if you think you're somehow doing a mean ol' cuss who'd rather bite your face off a FAVOR while a bunch of other worthwhile horses go for slaughter, your priorities and emotions are seriously skewed.

Perhaps in THIS particular case, Max is "saveable", but even with a trainers help, chances are good she will just screw him up even MORE if she's managed to make him this dangerous and disagreeable in such a short amount of time. And quite frankly, any horse that goes THAT sour THAT quickly has a serious attitude problem to begin with. I've owned MANY horses, and not one of them would just turn on a human from a few months or even years of a child handling them and being nervous. It takes a pretty particular type of temperament to go THAT mean on a person for just a lack of confidence - there is obviously history there and a lot more mistreatment or issues then just the OP's lack of confidence.

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post #96 of 200 Old 06-26-2011, 10:35 PM
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post #97 of 200 Old 06-26-2011, 11:15 PM
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She replied at the beginning, said thanks and said she was going to take the advice which was to get help from a trainer.
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post #98 of 200 Old 06-27-2011, 01:52 AM
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"Some screwed up horse rots in a field." I assume that you mean he will rot in a field because you can't ride him, right? You couldn't just take care of a horse, huh? Mess up a horse, shoot him in the head. Move on. It's time this culture starts taking a little more responsibility. I would rather die being responsible than live to 100 damaging other beings to protect myself. (And if she gets the help I keep suggesting the chance of HD getting killed or ending up in the dreaded wheelchair some of you roll out every few threads is very slim.)

On "mean" animals. Animals can be afraid, defensive, emotionally damaged, but "mean" takes a kind of forethought that animals just don't have.

I don't anthropomorphize animals either. If I saw them the same way I saw humans, I would have a hell of a lot less sympathy for them.

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post #99 of 200 Old 06-27-2011, 01:53 AM
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Waresbear...I hope that is the way she goes, that is, gets a trainer and works this out. That would be great.
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post #100 of 200 Old 06-27-2011, 03:02 AM
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I guess I REALLY have to laugh too at the fact that earlier I was criticized for suggesting that messed up horses would end up in the kill pens--and NOW--O my God!--we have 3 healthy horses being slaughtered for every messed up horse we try to help (but, of course, we aren't actually helping them--we are letting them rot in a field).

I don't know how strong my language can get on this forum. But some of this is just absolute pureed, unadulterated BS.

My point from my first thread was this: YOU SCREW UP A HORSE, YOU SEE TO IT THAT IT GETS FIXED. Don't leave a string of destruction in the path of your life. And we have gotten all over the place, but the real subject is HD. She did it. She needs to make it right.
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