Originally Posted by DSJ46
Yeah, I got ticked off at some point by the obtuseness (sorry if this word is obscure) of some of you all, but I always had a clear argument and facts. You all just insult when you can't come up with a decent argument. (Macabre, and Heartprints, especially you.)
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I am sorry that I insulted you. That truely was not my intent.
I am glad that you are knowledgable and have a great understanding of the ways of horses. It is an advantage to all if used correctly. Since you know that many people aren't as studied as you, sharing the information is wonderful, but you have gone about it in the completely wrong way. As a student, you would have been a teacher that I never really understood because your "lesson" has just gone in circles and the more frustrated you have gotten, the more unclear the message has become. The few times you have gone back and said "All I wanted was for the OP to just...." was a chance for the followers to get back on the train, but then you went back to chasing rabbits and nothing was accomplished. I understand that it would be a much better world for the horses if everyone knew the science behind it, but the sad fact is that many don't and many will never. You are just going to have to come to that realization. You can help change that fact by sharing your knowledge, but we all need to find a better way of communicating.
It seems to me that if you exerpt all the "fluff" from this thread, it boils down to the fact that everyone gave the OP thier best advice that they knew how to give. Each person is an individual and has a different experience to back up thier opinions, that does not make them stupid or wrong. Just different from yours.
One thing that my friend studying all this said was that she sees a severe lack of trust of people on your part (I wont get into all the psychology here that she did) Also that you use information/facts (IE-textbooks) to build a wall of defence against opinions. (The psychology on this is that an opinion cannot be debated by a fact and vise versa. Fact is recreatable or tangable, an opionion is mearly an emotionly based idea. The two cannot be compared apple to apple, this is an apple to orange argument.) Another thing she sees goes hand in hand with the lack of trust of people, which is finding an outlet in horses and making it a cover for some issue that you have with people (this borders on obsession, learning all that you can from every provable, scientific fact so that it cannot be proven wrong or taken away from you. To you this makes people stupid, with ridiculous ideas, or incompetent; in turn, feeding your distrust of people and opposing ideas.)
Again, I am not trying to insult you, this is coming from a licensed professional counselor (her disclaimer - she wouldn't be able to make an accurate assesment of any person without speaking to them one on one, this is just from whats seen here.)
This thread, as interesting as it has been, as because just a show of flexing muscles. Since the OP has left us all, I believe its time to just call it quits. I hope to see you, DSJ, on other threads spreading you knowledge to others, but please try to do so less defensively. Let people have thier own opinions. On a public forum like this, the best thing to do is to let each person say thier piece, give the best advice you can give from you experience, and move on to the next thread. This thread has become a great example of poor communication. All we ALL wanted to do was help the OP, and we managed to run her off completely. Did we accomplish anything for HER??? I hope so.
... Thank you for reading this fully if you did take the time ....