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post #1 of 8 Old 08-12-2009, 08:54 PM Thread Starter
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Question How do you ask for a right lead departure?

Hi, I am new to the show ring and just recently purchased a horse already trained to do all the stuff I need him to do, but the problem is I don't know how to ask for certain things. I have only every trail and road ridden, never shown. So I was wondering if anybody could tell me how to ask for a right lead departure, left lead departure, a turn around on the forehand, a turnaround on the hindquarters, and how to ask for a sidepass? Thank you for your time.
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post #2 of 8 Old 08-12-2009, 09:23 PM
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find yourself a good instructor. If you have a horse already trained like you say you do, you need to have someone to coach YOU in asking for the transitions etc. as not to confuse and frustrate your horse. Good luck with whatever you decide
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well the problem is i don't have enough money to really pay for an instructor. and i have an idea of what to do, i just don't know actually where to place my legs exactly and hands and stuff. thanks
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post #4 of 8 Old 08-13-2009, 06:27 PM
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my grandma taught me that if your on the left lead your left leg is slightly in front of your right leg, and if you switch (and nudge the horse a bit) they should change...I've always had to shift my weight and my legs and kick with the back foot as well...but my horse is stubborn. when you ask for a lead change, teach your horse how to do it on a straightaway- that way you can tell if he or she is changed or not! :) good luck
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post #5 of 8 Old 08-13-2009, 09:31 PM Thread Starter
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I don't think my horse nows how to do lead changes, but what do you do when asking for a certain lead when your taking off from a stand still, walk, or trot? thanx
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Depending on how the horse was trained.

For the left lead:
Put your right foot back and press it in. Pop your weight into your right butt cheek. If the horse is rusty or doesn't know it yet you can try lifting up a little on the right rein.

Right lead: Left foot back, weight on left cheek, lift left rein.

For hand. Direct reining. lift up left rein a little bit and move your left foot back a bit then press it in. Neck reining. turn them to the left and press left foot in. change it for going to the right.

Haunches. move your foot forward and steer a bit with your reins.

Sorry I am not good at explaining stuff with words.

I have to show you.

Put your ass on some class...ride a THOROUGHBRED
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post #7 of 8 Old 08-19-2009, 03:04 PM
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For canter departure:
Outside leg slightly behind girth, inside leg at girth, lift ribcage (rider), be certain you're looking straight ahead (not on ground - look where you're going). If that doesn't do it weight outside butt cheek then as you slightly squeeze outside leg roll onto inside seat bone. Weight for canter is on inside seat bone - the "rocking" motion I mentioned above is good for teaching young horses to canter.

A horse's hip will follow the riders hips, your legs control his HIND legs, the reins control his shoulders and front end.

When horse is going clockwise (to right) then you ask for a right lead canter - so outside leg is rider's left leg. Reverse for cantering to the left.

turn around on the forehand - is called a Turn on the forehand (TOF). First you have to make sure the horse has been taught to do this - you can test it out and teach it from the ground. Stand on left side of horse, bend neck slightly left using rein and push once where your heel would go (behind girth on left side) if you were asking for a TOF. If he takes 1 step pet him and let him know he did it correctly. Then do a push/release push/release until he keeps stepping away from your "leg" until you stop. Then mount and repeat from his back.

Then repeat it from the right side. And remember just because they do it in 1 direction doesn't mean they'll understand to do it in the other direction. Sideways movement is ALWAYS push stop pushing (release) never steady pressure. (Think of bumping horses side).

When you first teach a horse something you might have to give strong leg cues. If you're a good rider you'll eventually make the cues lighter and lighter so that you use more weight than leg or rein.

turnaround on the hindquarters (Turn on the Haunches or TOH) is more advanced and you'll need to undersrtand how to do a shoulder in/shoulder fore and/or a haunches in to do the movement correctly.

As for a sidepass (do you mean leg yield or halfpass?) that uses similar cues to the TOH.
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post #8 of 8 Old 08-19-2009, 03:57 PM
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You need to find yourself an instructor. If you can afford a horse, you can certainly afford a good solid coach. Sometimes coaches' don't do so well as far as business goes, and they ask for very little money for lessons. Maybe you can go find a good riding stables and work off lessons, that's what I did when I was younger. It's really beneficial for you to have trained help. It's like a young adult trying to fix a car... it would be better for that young adult to have someone help!
Riding is the same. Without help, you can be going down the road of horse cruelty. You could be doing something wrong, and you won't even know it.

There is always a girl who would skip cleaning her room to run outside in the pouring rain in her pj's just so she can muck-out a single stall. <3
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