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post #11 of 19 Old 01-23-2010, 02:31 PM
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You're always spot on, Spyder.
I think being "on the bit" is the ultimate connection-- not something you can make happen, but which is given and accepted when communication is perfect, along with physical balance. In my case, it comes and goes. I think of the bit-reins as a means of communication, not a tool like a screwdriver.
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post #12 of 19 Old 01-23-2010, 04:46 PM
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I ride inside leg to a steady outside rein.

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I <3 this picture:

As far as I am concerned, the rider's hand should never ever work backwards. The elbows should be firmly planted to the rider's sides and from there, you have to ride a horse up into that contact. The more horse you ride up into there, the rounder the horse will get. This is why I love side reins while lunging. It teaches the horse to reach, bridge their back and swing through.
The rider's hands do not ever make the connection. The hands are stationary and the horse must push up into them, without leaning. From there the hands may feel the horse's mouth, but not to the extent of this "sponging" crap. Think of having two little birds in your hands and keep them happy or they'll fly away.
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post #14 of 19 Old 01-25-2010, 07:22 PM
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Here's an AWESOME article that really explains "on the bit" and collection. It really helped me to understand exactly how it works and how to achieve it. I think chinga posted it for me in a previous thread I had about teaching collection.
The Art of Classical Riding--Dressage Training for Horse and Rider
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There were a lot of good tings in that article dynamite mentioned, but what do you think about the picture of the Perfect Position? I thought the horse looked really tense and squashed and unhappy.
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I take it you mean how to get your horse in a frame. The way I teach it is to ride your horse forward, then gently [or with some pressure depending on how soft a mouth your horse has] do a seasaw motion and when the horse gives in just keep a steady pull and he should stay there, if not, repeat. Once you have that down, the more advanced way is to get him in a frame by riding him forward and simple keeping a steady pull [this way you are a quiet rider]. But the key is the horse is moving forward, if you are just poking along it will not work
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post #17 of 19 Old 01-27-2010, 02:07 PM
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The way I teach it is to ride your horse forward, then gently [or with some pressure depending on how soft a mouth your horse has] do a seasaw motion and when the horse gives in just keep a steady pull and he should stay there, if not, repeat. Once you have that down, the more advanced way is to get him in a frame by riding him forward and simple keeping a steady pull [this way you are a quiet rider]. But the key is the horse is moving forward, if you are just poking along it will not work
Other than having the horse forward I would NEVER use any sort of see saw motion or pull. That goes against the very nature of good riding and horsmanship.
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Thanks everyone !

I've gotten him on the bit a couple times but I can't seem to hold it. I know he'll get it over time. He seems to do it alot when we're turning on a sharp courner.
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Thanks everyone !

I've gotten him on the bit a couple times but I can't seem to hold it. I know he'll get it over time. He seems to do it alot when we're turning on a sharp courner.

You just discovered that turning involves a change in balance and it becomes easier to position the horse during this phase of motion. The horse knows that to stay in balance he must position the hind legs more under himself

Your next step in thought is how do I continue to keep his focus on his balance and hind legs which will allow YOU to utilize what he is doing under you.

That is what trainers do. Riders just do.....trainers think.
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