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    05-05-2011, 11:19 AM
  #11
Trained
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Originally Posted by Moonstruck    
Well I am thinking about eventing. But I'm like GREEN. Not even broke green. I'm a complete newbie. So I don't know what I want, since I haven't actually tried anything yet.
If I wanted to find a trainer to focus on eventing, I wouldn't be able to find it in Miami. I've checked already.
If you want to get into Eventing - please look for a Coach who Rides the sport, Trains in the sport, Competes in the sport and is up to their ears in the sport. As David O'Connor and Jim Wofford say - "If your Coach doesn't piss on the pot, they need to get off the toilet" where this sport is applicable.

It is a dangerous sport, and you need a Coach who is very well rounded and involved, so that they can give you the best that they can. A Coach who not only mentally prepares you and your horse, but physically as well.

The Eventers I work with range from 3* to 4*, who they themselves take lessons. Every winter, they haul over to the O'Connors farm or the Davidson's farm to train. So the point is, regardless of the level they compete at, a good coach should still continue to educate themselves. So that when they are working with their students, they have a broad spectrum of approaches that will work for their broad spectrum of students and horses.

A good Eventing Coach doesn't push you beyond your limitations. They work with you slowly and surely to build your confidence, and your horses. They don't push you to go up in levels, nor do they discourage either. What I love about the one 3* Eventer I ride with, is that she's honest. If she doesn't think you are capeable of doing something, she's going to tell you. If she thinks you are in over your head, she'll blatently tell you. If she thinks you are in the wrong discipline, she'll tell you.

This isn't a sport to "piss" around with - from BN to 4*. A good coach will teach you respect for the sport as well.

Other aspects, have already been mentioned
     
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    05-05-2011, 12:02 PM
  #12
Weanling
A good trainer is what I see in my old trainer that I rode under for 16 years and still call up for advice sometimes.

They are patient yet firm, Don't give praise when not deserved so you know if you did really good cause they praise you for it, happy healthy horses, people in the stable are generally friendly, don't make you use gadgets, have horses for proper riding level you are at, good standing with surrounding horse community, caters to each individual riders needs, mixes up group and private lessons, makes sure rider knows how to do one thing before moving onto the next step (i.e. Not having rider who can't control walk properly before going onto trot or even worse canter), has ability to teach wide range of ages from children to adults, barn has a general relaxed type atmosphere and isn't too stuffy, trainer who will teach you more than just riding if you show interest (mine taught me how to do general care for a horse, first aid, feeding, etc.), offers a little extra riding time if wanted past your designated lesson. A great trainer builds a relationship. They take the time to eplain to you how to do things, and if you don't understand try to show you (mine sits on a barrell now cause she can't ride anymore, and if requires to ride to show she has a very experienced rider show the student what she means and explains as the rider is demonstrating).

The barn I rode at was not the fanciest of places. It had cobwebs, dirt in the aisle, but all the horses were very happy and healthy and it was a safe place to be. It was a relaxed atmosphere where you could hang out and learn other things if you wanted to like how to feed horses properly, how to clean stalls, and in her free time she would teach how to do general emergency first aid. She allowed me to come on my lesson day early and help out with barn chores to work off my lessons since I couldn't afford them. During the summers after was an accomplished rider she would allow several of us to go out and spend them there and exercise the horses, help out, and have fun. People who were at her place stay with her for years on end because she is so good. She is very respected in the community in that state and surroundign states. She wasn't very expensive being only $20 an hour for a private/group lesson. And often times the lesson would go longer than that cause she would allow for extra ride time to have a little free fun time. She would teach things that many trainers I have found don't teach but I find it now many times again and again very thankful that she did teach, such as riding with only one stirrup. Might sound easy but it isn't, it trully tests how good your balance is. And I have had times that I have had a stirrup break off of my saddle, or while riding will lose one stirrup even in a show once and I still was able to keep goign as if nothing had happened. She teaches how to listen to your horse and pay very close attention to what your body is telling your horse. She even bought me my first horse for $1200 and allowed me to pay her 100 monthly till all paid off, cause she knew I loved this horse but couldn't afford that much at one time. She would call me up since she couldn't ride anymore due to an injury whenever she got in a new lesson horse prospect to test out for her and she would ask my judgement on whether I thought it would fit in the program or not and if so at what level.
     
    05-05-2011, 01:45 PM
  #13
Weanling
I would love to find a trainer for eventing but unfortunately there are none in Miami at all. Before I go on, what is the difference between XC and eventing? I know that dressage is one of the aspects needed to know so would it be wise to learn dressage? Or are the standards totally different?

The barn I go to has a couple of skinny horses, and cribbers. Some are big and beautiful and laid back. Some are kinda pushy. I watch the lessons being done and they don't seem too bad but I don't hear many suggestions just direction..

Is it harmful to learn different disciplines?
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    05-05-2011, 01:47 PM
  #14
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I think it is never harmful to learn more than one discipline.

I also think that dressage is a great place to start. It will help you no matter where you end up.
     
    05-05-2011, 02:05 PM
  #15
Weanling
So even though hunter jumper is similar to show jumping it can still be helpful? Eventing is diff though because there's a lot of diff obstacles to get used to and bodies of water than just poles, so it wouldn't be helpful to just learn jumping right?

I always thought dressage would be interesting to learn.
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    05-05-2011, 02:08 PM
  #16
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Hunter is very different than jumpers/show jumping.

Basics are basics though. For everything you do you will need a good base.

Even if you switch to Western pleasure or barrel racing, you will still be able to use a good base.
     
    05-05-2011, 02:18 PM
  #17
Weanling
Yeah I know Show Jumping is against time and HJ is more controlled. I just mean the jumping part of it but no I suppose it wouldn't be the same..

Although I'd love to learn how to jump over obstacles, since it's not particularly available at the standards that I wish to learn, I should learn one of the disciplines needed for XC.. yeah?
     
    05-06-2011, 06:01 AM
  #18
Weanling
Take someone who knows what they are doing to watch as well.. I like what hunter said - good advice

A trainer should be someone you trust - and will do what they say as you know they wont put you wrong... I had a trainer for a couple of years who I changed as although she was a great trainer and I respected her as a rider - I couldnt approach her or talk to her... Im much happier with who IM using now...
     
    05-06-2011, 06:01 AM
  #19
Weanling
I also love a trainer who will get on your horse (Not everyone like this)
     
    05-06-2011, 08:36 AM
  #20
Foal
In terms of jumping the obstacles - no one is going to put you out on the field to jump cross country jumps until you can learn the basics in the ring and deal with a course and all kind of situations/fences. It'll probably be awhile before you are out there if the trainer is any good and doing it right.
     

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