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        06-28-2010, 04:30 PM
      #31
    Super Moderator
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    Originally Posted by Alwaysbehind    
    Stock horse breed show HUS classes have not gone to this in the last five years. It has been a much longer time than that.

    I tried riding in an appaloosa show (which follows along with the QH trends, behind them) 12years ago with my horse that I do Hunter/Jumper shows at and I was told my one judge that my horse is just too fast and is not broke in the head. Hmmmm... OK. He travels level with his nose poked out slightly and he has a trot.

    So for sure more than five years.
    You got me thinking, so I went online and searched for quite a while. I was going to try to post a WP champion from the 70's and then the 80's, 90's 2000 and current but I couldn't find any. I have some of the QH legends books at home. I'll try to get some. It would be interesting to see the changes. And to do it for "real" hunters too... just to see the changes over the years. I'll try to find some pix and start a new thread... just to compare the changes over the years.
         
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        06-28-2010, 05:07 PM
      #32
    Trained
    The Summer Classic show has normally been so good with their HUS. I never watched a HUS class anywhere else, so At least at this show it has been in the past five years. It disgusts me how much the horse world is rapidly declining. Even the normally "Pure" sports are losing it.
         
        06-28-2010, 05:12 PM
      #33
    Green Broke
    Oh man, HUS and Hunter/Jumpers are two completely different disciplines. I always thought HUS was western pleasure with an english saddle but I went to Pinto World last week and watched a WP class... it made the horse in this video look like it was galloping. So I guess technically these horses are "moving out" a heck of a lot more... but here's a video of a nice Junior hunter round at Devon (a big H/J show). This is the ideal pace and length of stride for this division.

    (Sarahver- notice, no crop. No kicking. Jessica stays quiet, the horse stays the same)

         
        06-28-2010, 10:48 PM
      #34
    Green Broke
    Upnover - that looks much better, what a relief! Thanks for sharing
         
        06-29-2010, 01:31 AM
      #35
    Yearling
    This thread is very interesting! I was looking at videos on youtube very recently and was very disappointed that all the HUS and English Pleasure videos looked just like western pleasure horses!

    I know there are people on this forum that defend the WP frame and gaits and that's fine - to each their own - but I'm really not a fan and have no interest watching horses stumble around like they've been demoralized

    I always expected HUS to be energetic, forward and was under the impression that HUS horses were preparing for the jumping ring or at least should look like it? In short, I had the same disappointment as the OP.

    Some of the posts about quarter horses is actually why I always was so disinterested about the breed. I don't like the QH "culture" or shows or the western style that is so commonly associated with them. I never in my life thought I would own a quarter horse for those reasons but I've discovered they can be very versatile and my guy is training for dressage, has energetic gaits and does not ride with his nose in the dirt!
         
        06-29-2010, 02:28 AM
      #36
    Trained
    Oh yes, I personally find the QH on of the most versatile breeds out there ^^

    The problem being, it's become so differant between disciplines now that some of the english horses don't look like QH's anymore and the western horses are having a tendency to turn into big ol' tanks at 14.2hh.

    Selective breeding, I swear.
         
        06-29-2010, 07:26 AM
      #37
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    Quote:
    Originally Posted by sarahver    
    Upnover - that looks much better, what a relief! Thanks for sharing
    Yes, thank you!
         
        06-29-2010, 09:40 AM
      #38
    Green Broke
    How sad, they are doing it to the Paints too! I went to YouTube and looked up Paint Hunter Under Saddle and watched about 10 vids...all had horses stumbling around with their noses between their knees. I guess I am going to decide to NOT take Cinny to the Paint shows and show him in the PAC classes...there is no way he will ever move like that and I don't think I want him too.
         
        06-29-2010, 10:11 AM
      #39
    Banned
    Paint and Appy shows pretty much do what ever is winning in the QH shows.
         
        06-29-2010, 10:21 AM
      #40
    Green Broke
    Sad sad sad....I am glad that my English stable (one of the few in NE) hosts dressage/english shows. I am glad to see the Pony Posse with their horses/ponehs riding around looking like the HUS's that I'm used to even if Cinny doesn't like ponehs running up from behind him. And I'm glad that is how our trainers train the horses and riders to show.
         

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