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    06-29-2010, 10:29 PM
  #41
Yearling
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Originally Posted by SorrelHorse    
Oh yes, I personally find the QH on of the most versatile breeds out there ^^

The problem being, it's become so differant between disciplines now that some of the english horses don't look like QH's anymore and the western horses are having a tendency to turn into big ol' tanks at 14.2hh.

Selective breeding, I swear.
Selective breeding for sure! But what is sort of funny is my quarter horse is very "foundation" looking and very beefy and bull-doggy and "western" looking but his natural head carriage is not low or anything remotely resembling western pleasure which is what you always hear -- that qhs are just "naturally" like that. I still think it's mostly/largely training

People make fun of him because he is such a typical western tank (although he is 15'3 at least) and I ride him English and am teaching him lower level dressage. Honestly though he has no natural issues to work through and his gaits and body carriage is just a very typical horse.

My friend has a western quarter horse who has what I would consider a normal natural head carriage which is raised and alert. I've never seen a horse I would think would be a natural peanut pusher, quarter horse or not!
     
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    06-29-2010, 10:46 PM
  #42
Trained
I know it, and the funny thing is the standard for WP now says that the horses head should be level to its body.

And just anothe rnote on the HUS.....If I was the judge and saw this movement, I would disqualify the whole bloody class. But then again I'm a long ways away from ruling the world, so I guess that'll have to wait
     
    07-01-2010, 01:06 AM
  #43
Foal
Its been YEARS (um...about 15 years) since I did any Hunter shows (I discovered eventing in the PC and that's all I wanted to do from then on) but this is what I remember them being.

     
    07-01-2010, 05:48 AM
  #44
Weanling
Unbelievable!
     
    07-01-2010, 08:03 AM
  #45
Super Moderator
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Originally Posted by devildogtigress    
Its been YEARS (um...about 15 years) since I did any Hunter shows (I discovered eventing in the PC and that's all I wanted to do from then on) but this is what I remember them being.

YouTube- Intermediate Hunter Under Saddle Schooling Show
That's a hunter show though, not a breed show.... it's different... but cute class!
     
    07-01-2010, 09:36 AM
  #46
Banned
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Originally Posted by farmpony84    
That's a hunter show though, not a breed show.... it's different... but cute class!

The problem is that even if it is a hunter show the breed shows should have their horse looking like what is being done in the open shows.

Example...you don't do different dressage because you are running an arab breed show or a quarter horse breed show. Dressage is dressage and hunter is hunter, the standards should all be the same. I can understand not looking as good due to breed conformation but never should it be mongrolized to look so far removed from the original concept that it is unrecognizable anymore.
     
    07-01-2010, 09:46 AM
  #47
Foal
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Originally Posted by Spyder    
The problem is that even if it is a hunter show the breed shows should have their horse looking like what is being done in the open shows.

Example...you don't do different dressage because you are running an arab breed show or a quarter horse breed show. Dressage is dressage and hunter is hunter, the standards should all be the same. I can understand not looking as good due to breed conformation but never should it be mongrolized to look so far removed from the original concept that it is unrecognizable anymore.
My Thoughts Exactly
     
    07-01-2010, 09:59 AM
  #48
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Originally Posted by Spyder    
The problem is that even if it is a hunter show the breed shows should have their horse looking like what is being done in the open shows.

Example...you don't do different dressage because you are running an arab breed show or a quarter horse breed show. Dressage is dressage and hunter is hunter, the standards should all be the same. I can understand not looking as good due to breed conformation but never should it be mongrolized to look so far removed from the original concept that it is unrecognizable anymore.
I wish that was the case!!!!

I watched the Hunter over fences classes at the appy national show (on line). Who knew hunter meant run as fast as you can at every jump? And I mean seriously, come out of the corner and crank your horse up to a gallop and get going so fast they are jumping flat and ugly.
There was one horse that went a nice quiet pace, it placed under the run for your life horses.
I was very disappointed.
A person who started their course on the wrong lead (all the way to the first jump) placed over the nice course.
     
    07-01-2010, 10:47 AM
  #49
Green Broke
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Originally Posted by devildogtigress    
Its been YEARS (um...about 15 years) since I did any Hunter shows (I discovered eventing in the PC and that's all I wanted to do from then on) but this is what I remember them being.
This is very much what I remember too, and how Cin moves...well he's getting there anyway. He's just not a head even with his shoulders kind of guy. He has a NICE sitting trot that may pass as a jog in some WP shows, however...he still doesn't put his head down, instead he lowers it slightly and puts his neck into a beautiful arch that rounds down through his shoulders and still picks his feet UP off the ground.

I think what was posted in the video is what they look for at the open shows at my stable. I was talking about it yesterday with the trainer and she said it's funny because you can tell which horses are from other stables just because they all move in a WP way and they just don't train that way at our stable. And because we always have several dressage classes, our judges are very English judges...yay. I can't wait, I wish Cin was ready to show this fall.....if my daughter or myself were young enough for walk/trot he'd probably do well....but his canter is a cross between a race horse and a train wreck ha ha.
     
    07-01-2010, 10:56 AM
  #50
Foal
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Originally Posted by Eliz    
Well I'm glad it hasn't effected the arabs :)
haha nope and it wont either most arab people (including myself) are disqusted how these "hunters" move particularly in the qh world lol.
     

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