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    04-21-2012, 09:11 PM
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I can't stand this horse.

My mom has me putting some miles on her 3 year old mare.

This horse has no desire to go. Nothing. At all. She'll walk along lalalalalalala, trot with me tap-tapping her sides, and lope if I kick like I'm trying to out-run a twister, and then I have to keep pushing and pushing, aand then she'll just lazily break into a trot.

My (previous) plans for her were to get her collecting a bit at the trot, loping nicely, sidepassing, and moving her front end and back end.

Well. :/ the collecting went out the window, I can't possibly get her up into the bridle.

I can't stand this horse. She makes me sooo frustrated. I can't find anything that's made her get excited and want to GO. I even tried to play with some crazy steers.

I have no problem with horses that just want to GO. But this....

/rantover
     
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    04-21-2012, 09:24 PM
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2 steps.

1. Squeeze.
2. Crop.

Taking a dressage whip to my "shut-down" pleasure gelding was the best thing I could've done for him.

Of course, I'm the exact opposite of you. I'd rather have a horse who was lazy than a horse who bolted.
     
    04-21-2012, 09:29 PM
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I don't have any whip of any sort...

But I've tried a similar thing to that, except with spurs, I'd squeeze a couple times, and if I got no response, she'd get a squeeze with my spurs. It worked for about 5 minutes, and then she got bored or something.

EDT: I don't like bolters either, I just like horses with a desire to go and move and get out there.
     
    04-21-2012, 10:06 PM
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Do you have split reins? The end of a split rein works as well as whip.
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    04-21-2012, 10:25 PM
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Yearling
Oh vair oh is absolutely right, she isn't respecting you, so has learned to just tune you out - peck peck peck is all she feels, and could care less. So you need to ask once, then BAM! - give her a reason to listen the first time.

Pokey horses can become extremely dead sided very quickly, so you need to up your game and enforce your cues. They aren't requests... they are demands - treat them as such.
     
    04-21-2012, 10:36 PM
  #6
Yearling
I would add working her on the ground too. I have an appt gelding who will just refuse to move so I jump off and go after his butt to make him move with energy on a line. I make him sweat and puff. Then I get back up and ask him to move forward. Sometimes it takes 2-3 times and the he goes when asked. I agree with the other posts. Ask nicely first, then spank.
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    04-21-2012, 10:40 PM
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Showing
^^Agree with the post by Ace. Split reins are the very best thing ever in a situation like this (for a western rider anyway, I don't know that I could juggle a whip along with the reins LOL). Since she has already shown that she is perfectly willing to sull up, I would be relatively quick with her force progression. I would squeeze, bump, then whip...hard. When she's going the speed you want, just sit quiet. If she goes to slowing down as soon as you let off the pressure, squeeze then whip again.

Every time she slows down without you cueing for it, be a little more aggressive with correcting her. When you are able to get 4-5 strides of your chosen gait out of her without having to push, then stop and let her stand and catch her breath for a few minutes. If it's been a long day and you've been working her for quite a while, that would be an excellent time to get off, lead her back to the barn, and call it a day.
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    04-21-2012, 11:04 PM
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Originally Posted by smrobs    
^^Agree with the post by Ace. Split reins are the very best thing ever in a situation like this (for a western rider anyway, I don't know that I could juggle a whip along with the reins LOL). Since she has already shown that she is perfectly willing to sull up, I would be relatively quick with her force progression. I would squeeze, bump, then whip...hard. When she's going the speed you want, just sit quiet. If she goes to slowing down as soon as you let off the pressure, squeeze then whip again.

Every time she slows down without you cueing for it, be a little more aggressive with correcting her. When you are able to get 4-5 strides of your chosen gait out of her without having to push, then stop and let her stand and catch her breath for a few minutes. If it's been a long day and you've been working her for quite a while, that would be an excellent time to get off, lead her back to the barn, and call it a day.
I have a VERY sensitive to whips horse so instead of whipping (smack with a whip or reins and he'll turn into a bucking bronc) I would squeeze and if I got no response IMMEDIATELY kick him 4-5 times Wham, Wham, Wham and as soon as he bolted forward stop and then continue on and the minute he started to slow down, squeeze, no response, kicky, kicky, kicky. He figured it out pretty fast.

I'm now working with a mostly-dead pony. He has one speed..... dead halt. A dang walk took me with a crop and a friend chasing him with a whip! I've got to get him fixed because he's a kiddo pony and the last thing I want is kids to think that one needs to kick the crap out of a horse to get them to move.
     
    04-21-2012, 11:29 PM
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Trained
If you are using any cue more than once it needs to get stronger each time until they respond. I personally HATE kicking them, but my guy has a bit f a stubborn streak and when he flat out refuses to do something (which he still does occasionally just as a test....grrr) I absolutely PILE DRIVE him. I am sorry, but that is just ridiculous. He gets his cue softy, then again a bit stronger and if he does not do it, he gets my spur full force. After a couple of times-he does it. Softly and nicely. I only do this when I know he knows it! (like last week it was rollbacks.......) Believe me, my legs are no where near strong enough to hurt him.
     
    04-21-2012, 11:54 PM
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I havent ever really had a horse I've had to kick... I mean, a little bit of a warning kick when asking for a turn team roping or something... but never an issue of GO.

I have taken the split reins to her a couple times when she really pissed me off, and she'd jump into a trot, and then die right down again...
     

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